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Re: Meri-Tuuli Re: Rhodiola

Posted by Mistermindmasta on July 31, 2006, at 9:36:30

In reply to Re: Meri-Tuuli Re: Rhodiola » Mistermindmasta, posted by Meri-Tuuli on July 30, 2006, at 6:03:39

> I haven't noticed this effect. I tend to get a touch of anxiety in the evenings, perhaps this is evidence of the rhodiola wearing off? I'm not sure.

Might be. My "anxiety" was purely emotional, not physical. I just tend to feel increased fear, directed at nothing, when it wears off.


> I'm afraid I haven't ever gone that high, and I'm not sure I'll ever try it out!!

Yeah, well I've gone up to 1,000 mg a day. I took one of the new chapter ones that has 300 mg in it and took 3... so that's actually only 900 mg but it's still a high dose. A dose that high of the new chapter brand definitely will make you feel less stressed.


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> But for me, the main effects seem to be mood brightening (very much so!), and an increase in energy, and perhaps mental focus. Bad events just don't seem to effect me like they used to, and good thoughts seem to get amplified. I'm really liking it.

Yeah, I've had the same results. But the problem is that it wears off later in the day (at ANY dose), which for me, is not much better than using guarana as a little mood brightener.

> Yeah, like I said, it doesn't seem to effect anxiety through. But its not soo bad, and when it is, I just have a couple of drinks and its okay.
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> Word of warning through, if I drink coffee, it seems to amplify the effects of caffine etc in the coffee.

Interestingly, I find the opposite. For me, it tends to cancel out the things that I love about caffeine. For example, being super energized and feeling like you have a lot of energy and you can take on anything... that all seems to go away when I'm using rhodiola. But then again, maybe rhodiola is acting as sort of a mood stabilizer which would fit it's adaptogenic profile I suppose.

> you taking rhodiola with anything else???

I've tried it with other things. I've taken it many many times on and off for the past few years and I generally get consistant results. The brands tend to vary in their "feel", regardless of what the label says. New chapter definitely is the best though, without question. I've tried 6 or 7 different brands, possibly more. I've tried rhodiola with 5-HTP and almost had a panic attack. Keep in my that I've never had a panic attack and am not prone to them. So I'd say that 5-HTP and rhodiola isn't the safest combination, but it might work well for some people. I've tried rhodiola with kava, which is actually really really really nice. Possibly the best combination of any herb I've tried. The problem is that kava is not too safe for long term consumption. I've never personally had any problems that I've known, but last time I had a blood check, my white blood cells were slightly low and kava is known to do that. So I don't feel too safe taking kava indefinitely. I can't remember off the top of my head taking it with anything else, but if I have, it wasn't memorable enough to report.

Also, I don't take pharmaceuticals. My problems aren't severe enough to warrant the use of more powerful drugs. My problems, then, in case you're wondering, is that I tend to have mild problems with being lazy and some mild anxiety problems, along with mood swings upon taking any mind altering substance. Maybe that's why I react so strong to rhodiola and caffeine? Maybe I'm more BPII than anything else? But I've never had a diagnoses and never went to a doc about any of this. But I guess I'm still highly functional, that's why I don't resort to meds.

I'm also a kid in college and a manager at a restaurant so I need to be at my best at all times.


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