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Re: Macuna experiences-reply » brainfade

Posted by BarbaraCat on November 8, 2005, at 12:52:43

In reply to Re: Macuna experiences-reply, posted by brainfade on November 6, 2005, at 5:02:02

Verrry interesting. Something that could prevent the degradation of of neurotransmitters is intriguing. You've put me on a new quest. Do you have a good source for these products? I usually use IHerb for most things but haven't checked if they carry the Bio-Chem brands.

Another question, how does this interract with an anxiety condition? Or bipolar for that matter? I enjoy the brightening effect from mild stimulants but have to be careful that they don't aggravate the anxiety.

- Barbara

use BioChem Green Tea Extract. Three tablets equal 270 mg of ECGC. I take this along with Co-E1 NADA at 5 to 10 mg per day first thing in the AM. I am taking mucuna at 60mg occasionally.
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> Its goes like this: tyrosine--to L-dopa enhanced by NADH----to dopamine to norepinaphrine to epinephrine. COMT is involved with the degradation of all of the transmitters, hence the Green Tea. With mucuna I bi-pass the Tyrosine to L-dopa phase... Naturally this is all layman stuff..yet there is ample evidence that dopamine and serotonin etc.. by nature decreases and COMT increases as we age resulting in a slow bitching decrease in the way one gets out of bed in the morning....I'm just trying to hedge old age......lol
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> There is definitely something with this combination so far as clarity, energy and appetite suppression....
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> Good on you.
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> Brainfade.
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> > I used to do NADH when I was in the throes of fibromyalgia and it gave me a nice lift. I didn't realize it was dopamine. The other supplement that helps with energy is Co-enzyme Q at about 150mg. I don't think it affects dopamine, rather it works on ATP and mitochondrial efficiency.
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> > What kind of green tea extract? You wouldn't mean L-theanine? How much NADH do you take?
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> > > On subject of dopamine. Consider NADH supplemented with Green Tea extract for ECGC, COMT inhibition. Does wonders for me.
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> > > NADH enhances Dopamime production while the COMT inhibition keeps Dopamine around just a little longer.
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> > > > Hi Jake,
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> > > > You mention HGH and macuna. I read that in the data and it intrigued me because I'm using HGH by injection. My growth hormone tested really low too and it's one of the things sometimes seen in fibromyalgia. I think it's helped me alot because since I started taking it my hormones became more consistent instead of ping-ponging around. That tells me that my alot of my mood and health issues probably have something to do with a bum HPA-axis.
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> > > > What I'm not sure about is if it's a secretogogue or works another way. There's no sense using a secretogogue for HGH, like some of the aminos, if there's little to work with. Its like giving a woman fertility drugs when she's post-menopausal. Nothing can convince eggs that aren't there to do much of anything.
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> > > > I relate to not always taking supplements. I have boxes and cabinets and countertops full of bottles containing next best thing that's going to solve all my problems. They sit there and become overwhelming to deal with so they just sit there more. One more thing to maintain. But But I never miss the HGH and my thyroid and other hormones because I definitely notice when I slack off.
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> > > > I haven't been taking the macuna lately. I'm taking some time off like the literature suggests. It'll be interesting to see how things feels when I resume.
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> > > > Sorry you're battling the blues. I think many of us deal with a slump around this time of year. I don't have SAD or anything and love rainy days, but wintertime has meant hard times since the beginning of time and we must be hardwired to dread it.
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> > > > I got an Apollo sunlamp a few months ago and hope I remember to use it. It helps with if you don't have SAD since it supposedly makes serotonin. So does high doses of Vitamin D taken with B6. I take a professional high dose Vit D drops. Maybe that's one of the reasons we go into a slump in the dark days - not enough Vitamin D = low serotonin.
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> > > > I also have some TMG sitting on my countertop but never took it long enough to decide if it was for me or not. I took Sam-e for a year or so and just couldn't tell. I'd be interested in your thoughts on it. Ciao! Barbara
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