Posted by JLx on September 30, 2005, at 20:40:42
In reply to med_empowered, JLx, HELP, posted by maddy4 on September 28, 2005, at 19:55:03
Hi Maddy,
Did you see my reply on the other thread?
> anyway - bought a ton of vitamins this week - alread yahve been supplementing w. calcium (apparently too much at 2,500 mg a day) also take evening primrose, essential fatty acids, flaxseed oil, b complex, iron, kelp, lecithin, garlic oil, etc...i hope i dont OD on vitamins.
You already know how I feel about the calcium combo -- stop taking it entirely.
How much of the other things do you take? Tell us exactly, and how long you've been taking them, please.
That zinc in the calcium combo, for instance, is pretty high to be taking for more than a short term which is like a week or two. The upper limit set by the Nat'l Academy of Science for zinc is 40 mg/day. You're taking about 62 mg. http://ods.od.nih.gov/factsheets/cc/zinc.html
I see from the other post that you're also taking glutamic acid HCI in that calcium combo. I don't really know what the "HCI" means in this instance, but glutamic acid in general in supplemental form can be problematical. Glutamic acid is an excitatory amino acid. As part of food it's usually not a problem, as an additive it can be. Like the calcium in excess, it's an excitotoxin. I would recommend that you also stop taking kelp as it is very high in glutamate. http://www.nutrition4health.org/NOHAnews/NNSp00_MSG.htm http://www.coldcure.com/html/dep.html
Did I already say to STOP TAKING these calcium supplements?? ;) Really, they could be making you crazy.
Since the magnesium glycinate is sedating, I'd suggest that while you stop taking the calcium supplements, you only take 200-400 mg of mag glycinate at night before bed.
I know you said you're impatient, and I understand, but for the best idea of what these things are doing to you, I'd advise changing one thing at a time. At least for one day.
> so- this week bought 5htp and SAMe. tried 50mg 5htp one day and felt drugged. tongiht took my first magnesium glysinate and SAMe. i do feel groggy alread yfrom the mag. glys. in minutes i felt this way - maybe im a hypochondriac and feel it from suggestion (reading abt it here) or maybe it is real. dont know abt the SAMe yet. what exactly does the SAMe make you feel? how is the mag gly. supposed to make you feel?
SAMe gave me more energy and a brighter mood. I didn't notice it right away and it was not that profound.
Mag glycinate is generally calming, it takes away irritability, for me, for instance. But some people find it stimulating.
You may want to experiment with other forms of magnesium, such as magnesium taurate (which would be good to counteract that glutamic acid) or magnesium malate.
> i just want my anxiety to go AWAY - i do not EVER want to have another panic attack or fear another PA. i would love to go the natural route instead of meds and guess i need to make up my mind. am willing to try whatever at this point - just am known for not sticking with the second i feel and unwanted SE.
> thanks so much for any input!!Some vitamins and minerals have quick "results" but not usually. Niacinamide, 500mg, is one that I find to be quick acting - calming - if taken on an empty stomach. Amino acids are quicker acting, but can be tricky. What seems to make some people feel good is awful for others.
To sum up, I recommend that you stop taking the calcium combo, stop taking kelp, take 1-2 magnesium glycinates at bedtime, and see how that feels before you do anything else.
Also, let us know your total vitamin/supplement regimen and also how do you eat? Vegetarian or not, how much or how little junk food, etc.
JL
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