Posted by psychophysicist on January 14, 2004, at 0:40:15
In reply to Re: Need recommends for anti-depression supplements » psychophysicist, posted by Psychopoppy on January 13, 2004, at 14:26:58
I have no way of knowing for sure that the Picamilon is what it says it is. However I have done lots of coke and I can assure you there isn't any in there. The best coke in the world doesn't last for 6 hours. Besides, if there were something that expensive they wouldn't sell it for only $30.00 a bottle would they?
The Picamilon bottle says it is "sodium nicotinoyl-aminobutyrate" whatever that is (I'm no chemist). Whatever it is it seems to work exactly as described: 1 hour after taking it you start to feel a calming affect and it stays with you for about 6 hours after which you will begin to become agitated/depressed again. It is just that simple.
I did not cut myself or think of suicide today and to me that is all that matters.
The guys at Smart Nutrition told me to look into Taurine as well - and get this: since they don't sell it THEY RECCOMENDED THEIR COMPETITOR (nowfoods.com). I have not tried it so I can't say anything about it but one of the guys there said it may even work better than Picamilon. I told him I wanted to order more of the Picamilon anyway and I will try the Taurine later.
They also said there are other options if I ever feel like trying some other things: Idebenone, magnisium citrate, DHA Oil (Omega3), and B-Complex (which I already knew about). I was told that the people who report the best results mix their OWN PERSONAL combo - directly contradictory to the US concept of blindly following doctors' advice.
They also told me that a lot of people gety excellent results from L-Theanine which is a Green Tea extract. Again they reccomended a competitor because they are cureently out of stock: http://www.nutriscienceusa.com/.
I think these guys actually want to help people (in America??? How can this be?). I just hope the FDA doesn't get involved now that people are learning about this stuff!
I am ANGRY at the American medical establishment. As far as I am concerned they are bordeline MURDERERS for limiting access to this stuff. How many suicide cases could have been prevented by an "alternative" treatment? This whole thing sickens me to the very core of my being knowing how badly people are hurting out there and now knowing doctors and drug companies and the government are not informing patients of these drugs and not putting any money into researching stuff that doesn't directly make them $$$. Apparently human life only has value to these people if they can make money off you.
I say CAPITALISM AND HEALTHCARE DO NOT MIX!!!!!!
-(Psychophysicist)-
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> "drug-dealing scum we call psychiatrists here in the US"
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> ....and might I add Canada !
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> I totally agree. Infact I think doctors in general are just one step up from used car dealers here. They're just businessmen. There are very very few exceptions to that and if anyone has found one I suggest they hang on to that person as tight as they can.
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> Speaking of those russian nootropics....I was just wondering...how do you know of the quality of those preparations ? Do you trust the source ? Can you be sure that there aren't any "additives" or "contaminants" ? I mean whats to say that there isnt a pinch of cocaine added and thats why you feel so good after taking that drug ?
> just wonderin'
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