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Re: Calcium:Magnesium ratio,,,sb417 » JLx

Posted by tealady on November 3, 2003, at 19:46:54

In reply to Re: Calcium:Magnesium ratio » sb417, posted by JLx on November 2, 2003, at 17:17:46

> > Must Calcium and Magnesium be taken in a specific ratio? Some Calcium and Magnesium supplements are sold as one tablet (for example, Calcium citrate and Magnesium oxide, citrate), but if one takes Magnesium glycinate separately, IS there a particular amount of Calcium that should be taken with it?

usual for an "average" person is about 2:1 calcium to magnesium
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> I think it depends on the individual, what you're trying to achieve, and perhaps also how much of either you're eating in the rest of the diet.

sure does.
just want to state tht I don't agree completely with Eby on calcium.
With me if I don't get enough calcium my muscles will go into cramps, especially during the night and on first awakening.
Calcium levels normally are kept at a normal level by parathyroid hormone, vitamin D and calcitonin. But even when we have optimal levels of these hormones, most of us need supplemental calcium. For those in pregnancy the need for calcium is increased. Calcium metabolism is off in pregnancy and the baby's calcium requirements are met at the mothers' expense.
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> I used to eat a lot of calcium rich foods, and was getting almost no magnesium. I didn't realize how much of a problem this was until I read this site: "Rapid Recovery From Depression Using Magnesium Treatment" http://www.coldcure.com/html/dep.html


Jlx, my view is that some people can need no extra calcium in supplements , but they DO need the calcium in foods. I don't think you should be eliminating these on purpose, if that is what you are doing.

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> I eliminated most calcium, started supplementing magnesium and though now I find I need a little calcium, it is a very little. I took 250 mg yesterday with equal magnesium for instance, and felt like I was going nuts until I took 300mg more magnesium.
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> My impression is that the prevailing wind is blowing towards calcium and magnesium in equal ratio, but some still say 2 to 1 calcium. I've also seen advised the reverse, 2 to 1 magnesium, for PMS.

PMS symptoms are helped with extra magnesium and B vitamins helps with this, as does avoiding sugars.

It's thought we can't absorb more than 1000mg calicum and 500mg magnesium..so if one needs more you have to take the magnesium in divided doses.
What I used to do, was take a calc/mag tablet in a 2:1 ratio at bedtime and extra magnesium with breakfast and lunch when more magnesium was indicted...usually I think in a MgCl form (or mag sulphate)

I take magnesium carbonate , but I do dissolve it first..if you mix it with ascorbic acid it dissolves and fizzes..then I drink it down. This is only when I am taking ascorbic acid though.

Otherwise magnesium carbonate or calcium carbonate will dissolve when it hits your stomach acid...but it may reduce your acidity (as in TUMS which is calcium carbonate)..so as long as you want to reduce acidity, or your mag carbonate is balanced..say with some ascorbic acid or possibly a citric acid in the tablet(a citrate?? not sure )..then it should be fine. There are sure to be other forms that are acidic that may balance out the carbonate in tablets...
I don't cope with all the fillers /binders usually, so I just make my own combos..or I add to creams too.

Hope this helps ,
Jan


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