Posted by Lou Pilder on July 7, 2015, at 20:57:57
In reply to Lou's response to Scott's post-, posted by Lou Pilder on July 7, 2015, at 19:02:13
> > > > > > You do what you do.
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> > > > > > I portray as best I can, with an attempt at objectivity, the facts as they present themselves. I also render opinions that are clearly stated as being such, none of which are attacks on you personally. I'm sorry that you feel that way. Perhaps you can identify and list a few things I wrote that you would like me to rephrase?
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> > > > > > Your identity is easily inferred by the presentation facts. This is a consequence of your behavior - not mine.
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> > > > > > I am opposed to your persistence in bringing into the Medication forum administrative issues. If you don't like having Dr. Bob limit the content of your posts, take that up with him on the Administration board.
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> > > > > > Please do not accuse others of antisemitism. That includes Dr. Bob.
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> > > > > > As I understand it, you are breaking the 3 post rule for reasons I have previously described - whether it be the result of oversight or of cleverness. Your motives are of no relevance. This is an important issue to me, as you know. It will be the responsibility of administration to determine your adherence to this policy. I do hope that I described accurately your pattern of postings along the sequence of posts that I previously enumerated.
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> > > > > > "...that follow a pattern wherein there are 2 undirected posts, followed by one directed post, followed again by 2 undirected posts, etc. This leaves 6 undirected posts out of 9..."
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> > > > > > Please do not accuse me of promoting antisemitism by my critiquing your behavior. I don't care how many degrees of separation it takes for you to get there.
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> > > > > > You do what you do - Jewish or not.
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> > > > > > From what you write, a subset of people could determine that you are scapegoating non-Jews for your feeling antisemitism all around you. This could further lead some people to characterize Christians as being incapable of resisting a conversion to antisemitism whenever I question your adherence to the rules of this website.
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> > > > > > See - now this is getting personal. I consider your accusing me of leading others to use you as a scapegoat and have them lash you with antisemitic language to be a personal attack on me. Since people here know that I am Jewish, a subset of these people could come to believe that you are scapegoating Jews for the antisemitism you feel.
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> > > > > > You do what you do.
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> > > > > > - Scott
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> > > > > > > > From:
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> > > > > > > > http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faq.html#three
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> > > > > > > > "
> > > > > > > > Can I post as much as I want?
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> > > > > > > > Please share this site with others by not starting more than 3 consecutive threads on the same board or posting more than 3 consecutive follow-ups in the same thread. More than that may discourage less confident posters from joining in. Giving them more of a chance makes it easier for them also to help -- and to feel good about doing so.
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> > > > > > > > There are exceptions to every rule, and those to this one may include:
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> > > > > > > > Responding to earlier posts one at a time.
> > > > > > > > Playing around with others at Psycho-Babble Social.
> > > > > > > > During meltdowns, clarifying posts many times.
> > > > > > > > Keeping a diary.
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> > > > > > > > The interpretation of the first exception to the 3 post rule needs to be better explained. I hope the moderator makes himself available to do this.
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> > > > > > > > Along one thread, there is a series of 9 consecutive posts submitted by the same person. This behvior is problematic in that it monopolizes the board and, in my estimation, dissuades others from becoming involved in conversations or leaving the website entirely. So, how many posts can one submit consecutively if no one else posts in the interim? Theoretically, one may post many more than 9 if each post addresses an earlier sumbission and that such a response has nexus and is directed to the previous author by name in the subject line.
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> > > > > > > > Can a string of posts submitted by the same person include more than 3 posts directed to the same poster? I don't know. This is a question that only the moderator can answer, as the posting policy was constructed by him. However, I don't think that one may create a string of posts by submitting a great many that follow a pattern wherein there are 2 undirected posts, followed by one directed post, followed again by 2 undirected posts, etc. This leaves 6 undirected posts out of 9 that do not qualify as: "Responding to earlier posts one at a time." I don't see any specifiers in the 3 post policy that posting numbers should be reset each day. Maybe it should. In the meantime, I don't think that this posting behavior is supported by the rules of the website.
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> > > > > > > > - Scott
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> > > > > > > > Scott,
> > > > > > > Please do not post anything about me that could be construed to be such that it decreases the respect regard and confidence in which I am held or induce hostile and disagreeable opinions or feelings about me.
> > > > > > > You wrote,[...This behavior (posting 9 consecutive posts in a thread without someone else's name after 3 posts within those 9 posts)is problematic {in that it monopolizes the board}and in my estimation {dissuades others from becoming involved in conversations or leaving the website entirely.}
> > > > > > > What you wrote that I could be seen as your subject person, could stigmatize me and have others use me as a scapegoat for their real or imagined ills. And since you have not posted a basis for your claims against me here, that could arouse anti-Semitic feelings here against me because I am trying to purge out the old hatred against the Jews being allowed to be seen as supportive here by not only Mr. Hsiung and his deputies of record, but by posters that are in concert with them. This requires me to post a lot to try and stop Mr. Hsiung and his followers from allowing hatred toward the Jews to be seen as supportive and worse, that in Mr. Hsiung's vision of his community in the future, it will be good to have anti-Semitic propaganda to be seen as supportive here for it will in someway improve or benefit his community for the whole of it.
> > > > > > > As far as any monopoly of this forum, members can post wherever they choose even though I am trying to save lives here by posting what I need to for readers to be educated as the goal of this forum states. If any one wants to stop me from educating readers by any means, they IMHHHO could be trying to stop me from educating them about what could save their lives, prevent life-ruining conditions and addictions, and trying to stop me to have the anti-Semitic propaganda here that is allowed to be seen as supportive, be thrown back into the holes that those that post such hate have slithered out of.
> > > > > > > Lou
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> > > > > > Scott,
> > > > > You wrote,[...a subset of people could determine that you are scapegoating non-Jews for your feeling anti-Semitism all around you...].
> > > > > A subset of readers could think that the Earth is flat. But do they have a rational basis to think that? They do if they are ignorant of facts that show otherwise.
> > > > > In your statement about me here, you say that I am feeling anti-Semitism all around me. You then connect because of that I am feeling anti-Semitism all around me, that a subset of people could use that to make a determination that I am scapegoating non-Jews for those feelings that you say that I have. You base this on what I write here. Assuming that the content of what I write here is concerning my attempts to eradicate the anti-Semitism here posted with impunity and/or my attempts to educate readers about the consequences of taking mind-altering drugs in collaboration with a psychiatrist and/or my attempts to save lives here and prevent life-ruining conditions and addictions and suicides, I find no rational basis for anyone to think that I am scapegoating non-Jews for my feelings that there is anti-Semitism all around me. In fact, what I am trying to do is have Mr. Hsiung purge out the anti-Semitic propaganda allowed by him and his deputies of record here along with anyone that they have attracted to be in concert with them by posting anti-Semitic content with impunity here. In fact, the feelings that readers could get from here is that anti-Semitism is being validated by Mr. Hsiung and his deputies of record because the rational basis for those feelings are plainly visible in that anti-Semitism is allowed to stand and worse, that Mr. Hsiung says he will allow those statements to stand because by him allowing it, it will in his thinking be good for his community as a whole. That could induce feelings of hatred toward the Jews on its face, for Mr. Hsuing states that being supportive takes precedence and that members are to be civil at all times. Readers could get (false) feelings of superiority by seeing that Mr. Hsiung himself states that he knows that un repudiated anti-Semitic statements here could cause me harm. That could give Jew-haters feelings of gratification to see a psychiatrist allow antisemitic hate to be seen as being supportive and that in his thinking it will be good for his community as a whole to be seen that way.
> > > > > I have not made any statement to use non-Jews as scapegoats here for my feelings. My feelings are a result of being a recipient of defamation and anitsemitic hate and the denying me of the equal protection of the rules here and to be made to be shunned and made to be a scapegoat so that the psychiatrist could use his example and influence to have others shun me here because they can see him not respond to years of notifications by me allowed by a psychiatrist to be done for years here giving himself his own justification for inflicting this abuse upon me which is the same justification used to support slavery and genocide and infanticide and segregation as that in his thinking it will be good for his community as a whole.
> > > > > Any basis that anyone has to determine that I am using anyone for a scapegoat can post the URL and the statement in it to make that basis and then I could respond to whatever you post about me.
> > > > > Lou
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> > > > > Scott,
> > > > You wrote,[...Please do not accuse others of anti-Semitism. That includes (Mr. Hsiung)...].
> > > > The posts that one makes live after them. Their intent could be interred in their bones.
> > > > I do not know if anyone is anti-Semitic. But I do know anti-Semitism here when I see it. For Mr. Hsiung says that anything that could lead a Jew to feel put down/accused is an anti-Semitic statement or anything that puts down Judaism.
> > > > Now when posts are allowed to stand that put down Jews/accuse Jews, then there is some rational basis to wonder why anyone here would post such and more than that, why anyone here would want anti-Semitic propaganda to stand un repudiated. Mr. Hsuing answers that. He says that by allowing anti-Semitic propaganda to stand, it will be in his thinking to be good for this community as a whole for being supportive takes precedence. Now to determine if Mr. Hsiung or another poster here is an anti-Semitic person, there is a list of criteria that courts have used in different jurisdictions to make that determination.
> > > > Let's say that in a hypothetical session with the hypothetical people, the psychiatrist Dr. Quackenbush and his hypothetical client, Helen Weilz has this meeting:
> > > > Dr. Quackenbush: Why are you here?
> > > > Helen Weilz: Where I live my house is having rocks thrown at it.
> > > > Dr. Quackenbus: Have you called 911?
> > > > Helen Weilz: They refuse to respond.
> > > > Dr. Quackenbush: What is their rational for not responding to you?
> > > > Helen Weilz: They say that it will be good for their community as a whole to not respond to me being abused.
> > > > Dr. Quackenbush: What do you think is the reason that your neighbors are casting stones at you?
> > > > Helen Weilz: They hold up signs with anti-Semitic slogans saying that Jews are not saved and have to convert to Christianity to be saved. And that I am bringing harm to the community that is effecting their health. They say this because the community is running down and they blame me for people leaving. And then they say that Jesus was made to suffer a horrible death by the Jews and that also I should be evicted from the neighborhood because I am vocal about the antisemitism and they made a rule to limit my speech by saying that I could not continue after three statements unless someone else said something.
> > > > Dr. Quackenbush: What does the administration say?
> > > > Helen Weilz: They say that they will allow the abuse and anti-Semitism to continue because they think that by allowing it to continue, it will be good for their community as a whole
> > > > Dr. Quackenbush: Does the mayor display a swastika? Are the administrators anti-Semitic? There is a test to determine that. First, do the administrators want harm to come to you?
> > > > to be continued...
> > > > Lou
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> > > > > Friends,
> > > Many of you already know the historical uses of tactics to persecute the Jews. They are ancient and were developed in the dark and middle ages on and in 1492 there was the Spanish inquisition and the edict of expulsion of the Jews from Spain. This document has the rational for hatred toward the Jews that others after them have built on. I would like for you to read this document carefully to see the basis for the persecution of the Jews and then I will show you the parallels here. To see this document, click on the link to follow and there is a link to what is called the Alhambra Decree. Notice each of the anti-Semitic propaganda statements in the edict to expel the Jews. See if you can understand how anti-Semitism is created and developed here by allowing anti-Semitic propaganda to be seen as supportive by Mr. Hsiung and his deputies of record and all those posters in concert with those orchestrating the hate.
> > > Lou
> > > http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20020627/msgs/6423.html
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> > > > Friends,
> > Now I would like for you to examine the following post by Mr. Hsiung to me here. This could help you see what is plainly visible here.
> > Lou
> > To see this post, go to the search box at the bottom of this page and type in:
> > [ admin, 7968 ]
> > > see that the 7968 is in the colored strip URL, not in the subject line
> > >
> > Friends,
> Antisemitism can be fostered in a community by using ancient tactics that have been used to persecute the Jews in a community. These tactics come out of the dark ages and then through the middle ages and then through European Fascism jump-starting with Jean Jacques Rousseau as Mr. Hsiung cites here as his basis for some of his thinking on the faith board.
> Not too long after Queen Isabella expelled the Jews from all Spanish lands, Martin Luther wrote the following about the Jews. I would like for readers to make a list of the anti-Semitic propaganda that you see in the document and then I intend to show you the parallels here in the anti-Semitic propaganda allowed to be seen as supportive by Mr. Hsiung and his deputies of record, and worse, that in Mr. Hsiung's thinking it will be good for this community as a whole for those statements to be seen that way.
> Lou
> To see this document, click on the link to follow and in it is another link to the document by Martin Luther. This is Christiandom's Jesus per Martin Luther and you will see why the Rider on the white horse is not Christiandom's Jesus.
> http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20041012/msgs/407438.html
> >
> Friends,
Let us look at [admin, 428781]
Lou
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