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Re: Buprenorphine - Freedom of speech - Why not? » SLS

Posted by LostBoyinNC45 on February 26, 2014, at 13:52:22 [reposted on February 28, 2014, at 2:20:03 | original URL]

In reply to Buprenorphine - Freedom of speech - Why not? » sleepygirl2, posted by SLS on February 26, 2014, at 13:12:49

I dont. Why? Simple. Because I dont believe "bupe" will ever become formally FDA approved for chronic, severe depression, not even for chronic, severe TRD.

Ive been reading about "bupe for TRD" since around the time I first developed depression, when I first began seriously reading these kinds of forums. That would be around 1998 or so. That was like, sixteen years ago. And "bupe for TRD" still aint formally FDA approved for anything other than dope addict recovery. The first person I read on the Internet post about "bupe for TRD" was on another forum and at first I perceived the person as an "expert." It later became evident that the person was/is a dope head and a controlled substance seeking nutcase and does not even have a drivers license. LOL

Hence, all discussion here and elsewhere about "bupe for TRD" is nothing but academic. And could easily lead a newbie TRD person to go ask about it to their shrink, offline. With possible bad reputation results for the TRD patient.

I mean, its a scheduled, highly controlled opioid associated with heroin recovery. You cant even drive on the stuff if it remitted some patients. If you remit, but cant drive a car, WTF good is it for? Most people, even most TRD patients, drive a car and have a drivers license.

All this discussion about opioids for TRD is worthless drivel talk and should be actively discouraged. Discouraging it is not suppression of freedom of speech, its about guiding TRD patients along to places that are legal, FDA approved treatments for refractory mood disorders, i.e. ECT, MAOIs, getting a sleep study done and getting treated for sleep apnea if ANY is present...even mild apnea, Abilify plus SSRI, rTMS, exercising a lot and losing weight if obese to lower blood sugar...particularly if diabetes is present as it is well established that diabetes untreated causes severe fatigue, getting out of the house more and forcing yourself to be around people more, getting a part time job, laying out in the sun a lot, etc.

The last thing people that read these forums need is new and more problems ("bupe" induced opiate addiction).

For a heroin junkie who is attempting to recover, "bupe" is from what I have read about it, a very possible Godsend. Kind of like the heroin junkie equivalent of ECT for TRD. But for psychiatric purposes, narcotics have ZERO uses.

Narcotics are for severe physical pain control. And bupe is for narcotic addiction recovery. That is all these drugs are FDA approved for and the government is increasingly cracking down on prescription drug abuse, particularly the government is cracking down on highly scheduled narcotic painkillers as discussed on this forum.


Eric AKA "LostBoyinNC"

> I think we should continue to talk about the use of buprenorphine for depression here on Psycho-Babble.
>
> Not so simple.
>
>
> - Scott


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