Posted by alexandra_k on January 31, 2005, at 23:40:45
In reply to Re: I think I understand why people don't like this... » alexandra_k, posted by Gabbix2 on January 31, 2005, at 22:42:00
> I believe that having private conversations where everyone is not included is cliquish.
> Yes it's my choice, but if it is, so is my belief that it's wrong to mock handicapped people.Ok. There I would say 'why is it wrong to mock handicapped people' and we would probably agree that it is hurtful. And so here I guess your point is that the former is hurtful too...
But I would say that some good could come of small boards (not that it *will* come - but that it *might possibly*) for all the reasons that Dr Bob has given. Whereas I cannot see what good could come of mocking handicapped people.
> Perhaps he hasn't had enough experience on the outside, or with group dynamics, sometimes things have to be seen or felt to be understood.
Maybe he doesn't get how hurt people are likely to be...
> Yes, and he does, as I do, it works both ways.
Yes.
> > And that is a different issue from whether they should be implemented or not.
> No, actually I can agree to disagree on just about any topic but not where it involves implementing something that I believe is going to hurt people.Not even for a greater good? I would say that Dr Bob thinks more good than harm would be likely to come from this or he wouldn't want to implement the idea. Maybe he is wrong, but I have faith that he is well intentioned (as are we all...).
Ok, I retract 'envy' (apologies) and replace it with 'hurt' as follows:
> > Some people may feel hurt that they cannot be part of one small board in particular.
> > Sounds like that is what people are trying to prevent.
> > But are those feelings of hurt something that follows from small boards or something that follows from...And now I need to alter the ending...
... Hmm. You have a good point.
> We choose to feel hurt...
> That's not something I agree with as a general statement. It's currently popular, but not a belief I ascribe to.
Yeah. I am not sure what I think there.
So some people will most probably feel excluded and hurt. They will want to be able to join one of the groups but they will be prevented.
But is there a possible greater good?
Will some people stay on Babble who otherwise would leave?
Will some people feel more supported and more understood?Hard to weigh...
I haven't made my mind up either way...
PS. Ever thought of taking up philosophy :-)
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