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Re: TRIP8b inhibitors? Truly novel antidepressants.

Posted by bleauberry on April 21, 2018, at 10:09:59

In reply to Re: TRIP8b inhibitors? Truly novel antidepressants. » bleauberry, posted by linkadge on April 21, 2018, at 9:09:08

> "Make it so we fix the actual problems so we don't need a protein manipulating drug."
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> Blueberry, the real problem is genetic (sorry to say) and not all hidden lymes disease.

We don't actually know that. I think it is wrong to outright reject an idea because it doesn't fit a preconceived world view.

I understand where you are coming from. It's just that there is a lot of speculation and assumption going on. Treating any psychiatric patient for an invisible and unbelieved tick born infection is likely to yield better results than messing with sodium channels, transport genes, or whatever, but that is just my opinion because I've seen it work with the worst cases. Like mine.

I came from the psychiatric ward and I failed ECT. My story is only one of millions. There are SSSOOOOO many stories on the internet like mine - people who suffered for years and years with all sorts of terrible symptoms, mostly psychological and psychiatric, who got better with ABX but not conventional treatments.

But they don't go to psychobabble. So you don't know they exist. But they do. By the millions. Out there in the world. You can find them all over the internet. Real people like you and me with real stories that will blow your mind.

I guess somebody can use that to their advantage or they can reject it outright. And that is fine. I think choices matter.

I don't claim that every psych patient has Lyme disease. I do claim that 9 of 10 of them probably do. If that sounds profound, it should. It sounded profound the first time I ever heard it too.

But you know what is more profound than that? To me? The fact that after 50 years of the best science in world history, the smartest minds that ever lived, technology racing forward in leaps and bounds, men on the mood, rockets to Mars, super computers, and yet, the best we have is maybe 15% remission for depression patients, 30% improvement is considered success, and there have been no real successes in treatment or new drugs for decades, none that actually changed the game in a big way. No. We still have terrible suffering with inadequate diagnosis and inadequate treatments.

I find it profound that the medical community doubles down on treating patients with protocols that almost always disappoint. THAT is profound. That they won't venture out of their comfort zones and actually try methods that other doctors are having great success with, is profound. If you ask me.

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> How do you fix a bad sodium channel gene, or serotonin transporter gene, or BDNF gene with an antibiotic?
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> Linkadge

I think you first have to identify that those things are actually as you say they are. There is a lot of speculation going on here. There is no effective way to pinpoint any of those, to know exactly what it means, or how to fix it.


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