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Re: insomnia on Nortrip! Help me block the NE SLS » bleauberry

Posted by SLS on March 22, 2018, at 14:16:18

In reply to Re: insomnia on Nortrip! Help me block the NE SLS » SLS, posted by bleauberry on March 22, 2018, at 8:03:56

Hi, Bleauberry.

> > > I would instead resort to insomnia herbs and calming herbs. A combo of 3 or 4 of them works wonders, even against powerful pharmaceuticals. I'm thinking things like Valerian, Passion flower, American Skullcap, Lemon Balm, and others. These offer additional health benefits over prescriptions.

> > Good idea.

> But I would like to add to that - single or duo herbs are usually much less effective than 3-5 herbs.

How can you make such a generalized statement like that? That's like saying 1-2 antidepressants are less effective than 3-5 antidepressants. Perhaps you could provide scientific evidence of this? I find this kind of generalization counterproductive, if not dangerous.

> That's because unlike medications, these plants have multifaceted mechanisms and actions

How can you say this? There is a panoply of medications that have multifaceted mechanisms of action. Todays drug research involves refining molecules so that they perform multiple actions.

> often dozens or even hundreds per plant.

Can you name one plant that has revealed hundreds of medicinal mechanisms of action as delineated by science?

> Almost as if God planned it that way

Uh, oh.

> or a miracle of Mother Nature

Don't look now, but man is a miracle of Mother Nature. Is it unnatural for man to fashion a tool from flint using the hands and brain that he was endowed with? Is it unnatural to plant and harvest herbs agriculturally? Is it unnatural to refine herbs and concentrate them into oils? Is it unnatural to refine oil and produce drugs from it?

> Most herbs synergise with each other and make each other better.

This is not a fact. It is an overgeneralization. It sounds wonderful, though. Well, perhaps you are right. Belladonna and Hemlock can be combined to produce a synergistic effect - death.

> While it's true plants have medicinal properties, many of them are eaten as foods in other countries.

The point being? Do you mean that if eaten as a food, there will be no pharmacological effect from the substances contained in it? It doesn't matter what the source of a pharmacological substance is. If enough of it is introduced into the body per unit time, it will produce a change in biological function.

> In my opinion, all psychiatric patients should do a 3 month trial of Cordyceps mushroom - the dose is 6000mg and up.

It is interesting that you should have such an opinion. Lucky caterpillars.

Not all psychiatric patients have bipolar disorder. Not all psychiatric patients have schizophrenia. Not all psychiatric patients have OCD... etc. All psychiatric patients should understand that a drug that works for one person will not work for another. Now, can you give any foundation for why this mushroom is a panacea for all psychiatric patients? Do you happen to know what the mechanisms of action are? It is not necessary to know this, of course. If it works, it works. If it has no adverse effects, so much the better. Cordyceps is contraindicated in pregnancy, by the way.

> I just think it makes sense to try a handful of herbal medicines before committing to a chemical medication.

In other words, you think it makes sense to take a handful of herbs, each containing an array of chemicals that can yield hundreds of mechanisms of action.

No thank you.


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