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Re: MAOIs and cheeses. Which are safe or bad? baseball55

Posted by MightyKondrian on December 8, 2017, at 3:12:25

In reply to Re: MAOIs and cheeses. Which are safe or bad?, posted by baseball55 on December 7, 2017, at 18:12:26

> These long lists are mostly ridiculous. I've seen some that say no eggplant, oranges, plums and on and on. What I was told at McLean was the simple form - no aged cheeses or meats. Careful with soy. No marmite (??-a UK thing), no sauerkraut and no draft beer. That was it
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> I cheat constantly. I love cheddar and gouda and feta. I have even had small amounts of blue cheese. I know I am pushing the envelope and I know that 4 years of no problem doesn't mean there won't be a problem. But....so far no problem. My p-doc warns me to be careful, but also pointed out early on that if a couple of ounces of cheese and salami and a couple of drafts would kill you, nobody would prescribe MAOIs. These are warnings, not certainties. He said you're probably okay with an ounce of cheese. I read 1/4 cup of soy sauce is fine. I'll occasionally have a slice of pepperoni pizza - maybe a couple of ounces.

Thanks for not putting me to shame lol. I kinda expected one or two hate posts but I got a sensible reply instead. Yeah, everyone STAY OFF THE (recreational) DRUGS!

Yup, here Marmite is yeast extract spread. Pretty yummy! Dont forget Bovril either which I'm pretty sure is meat extract spread. You can dissolve it too to make a drink or soup. And watch those broths/gravy.

Another one we are told to stay clear of is L-dopa. Not just a Parkinson drug but found in food too. I think its in flava bean pods and other bean pods too and possibly Banana skins(?).

Chocolate is another. I think its because it contains some amount of PEA (phenylethylamine). Most people do not feel any effect because MAO breaks it down almost instantly. Hence why we feel its effects when taking MAOIs. Not from chocolate as such (unless u ate a couple bars of 90% cocoa dark chocolate perhaps). But I've never had any such reaction and I love chocolate (who doesn't?!). What I have tried however is neat PEA, and I warn you it 'felt' dangerous. Similar to when I accidentally took ephedrine hidden inside a 'legal' high containing a plant I didn't know containing Ephedrine. Cant remember what this plant was called but it wasn't Ephedra. Pseudoephedrine (Sudafed), a non-psycho stimulant (at least non-euphoric) for nasal congestion is another med which must not be taken (its often also used as a stimulant simply to stay awake). So watch out for nasal sprays too. Sudafed's milder form is bad too coz it contains phenylephrine, a milder but still dangerous non-psycho stimulant.

Aah enough....
Sorry to side-track.

MightyKondrian


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