Posted by Lou Pilder on July 28, 2015, at 7:36:45
In reply to Lou's reply-urgent, posted by Lou Pilder on July 24, 2015, at 21:10:31
> > > Strattera = atomoxetine
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> > > http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15554766
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> > > "A MEDLINE search was conducted for articles published from 1962 to December 2003 using relevant search terms (psychostimulant, stimulant, amphetamine, dextroamphetamine, pemoline or methylphenidate, atomoxetine, bupropion, monoamine oxidase inhibitor, and selegiline)."
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> > > "No documented reports were found in the recent literature of hypertensive crises or fatalities occurring when the stimulant was cautiously added to the MAOI."
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> > > I performed my own searches and was unable to find a single case of adverse reaction attributable to the combination of Strattera (atomoxetine) with tranylcypromine. It is understandable that the drug company for Strattera (Lilly) would want to unconditionally contraindicate combinations of its drug with MAOIs. Older medical literature clinged to the notion that one could not combine MAOIs with any other antidepressant or stimulant. In real life, this has since been shown to be erroneous. The most important adverse reactions occur with drugs that potentiate serotonin neurotransmission, such as SSRIs and SNRIs. This includes the tricyclics: imipramine and clomipramine.
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> > > Also:
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> > > http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/7931221
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> > > "These results suggest that reboxetine might be advantageously combined with tranylcypromine, or any MAO inhibitor..."
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> > >
> > > - Scott
> > Scott,
> > I read that and Strattera is not a stimulant according to my research. In other studies it was Ritalin and Adderall that were cited. And anyway, the article admits that the treatment has risks and just because in their search they did not find deaths, that does not mean that the combination is not contraindicated, for it is and the study was from years ago and there is new additional information available today that was unbeknownst to then. And readers, if taking a combination of drugs is contraindicated, that means the combination is not to be prescribed. I agree that in cases where there is no hope, like last stage cancer, any treatment could be used for there is nothing to loose. But now there are oncologists that do not use chemo in end stage cancer because it could make the patient worse. If there are psychiatrists still using Parnate with Strattera, I do not know of any reports of such in the present. I agree that there could be those in 2003 and such. But that was one-upon-a-time, and once-upon-a-time I havn't seen to come again.
> > If you want readers to take the two drugs together, if they die from the drugs, their blood will not be upon me.
> > Lou
> >
> Friends,
> The urgency here is that I am afraid that you will discount what I post as per my adversaries here posting what could decrease the respect and regard and confidence in which I am held and induce hostile and disagreeable opinions and feelings toward me.
> I say this with shame, for I am appalled that these hatefull messages here are allowed to be posted about me and that the citations could influence you to take a deadly combination of drugs. And not only is the combination one that could kill you, but by themselves, the drugs are dangerous to human beings all allowed to be promoted here as "medicines" and the posting is supportive.
> You see, Strattera was not on the market in the U.S. until 2006. That is not in the citations by my adversaries here to influence you. And the suicidal thinking risk with Strattera is high comparatively as almost 4%. And some of the chemicals in Strattera are illegal in many countries. You see, the drug (redacted by respondent) and is used to keep dogs from urinating. Do you want to take this (redacted by respondent)?
> Lou
>
Friends,
Many of you already know that there are scoffers here in the last days of posters here saying that I overgeneralize and exaggerate. But I say to you and any of them that are being allowed to post defamatory messages against my character here that what I have been posting is true, but could be unbeknownst to you.
Here is the showing of the deaths from Strattera up to 2010. I have other records of the deaths from Strattera beyond that date. The drug kills by inducing suicidal thoughts and by other ways.
And you mothers. Take heed that you are not deceived to think by reading here that what I post here could be discarded by the nature of the slander of me being allowed to be posted here by Mr. Hsiung and any of his deputies with impunity. I have done my due diligence in researching the drug Strattera and I tell you that it is a knock-off of another drug using chemicals that in some countries are not allowed. And if your psychiatrist/doctor wants to give your child Strattera, ask them to enter this forum and have dialog with me here. Then I could tell you the rest of the story and even show the historical relationship between psychiatry and mass-murder that Mr. Hsiung has made prohibitions to me here to post about,but he posts the swastika and will not take it down. And here we have the open promotion of the drug Strattera that causes suicidal ideation in children. here is the link showing from the FDA what I am saying.
Lou
http://www.lamplightersoftware.com/strattera.html
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