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Re: What to do!? » PeterMartin

Posted by 90%there on December 9, 2014, at 16:48:05

In reply to Re: What to do!?, posted by PeterMartin on December 9, 2014, at 5:52:54

> I was on phenelzine for a short time ten years ago. It was effective but almost too much so (borderline mania). JD consider trying it again but one of my main concerns at this point is weight gain - particular belly fat. I can't seem to stop the 10 to 20lbs yearly gain and it's put me in the obese category for the first time in my life. Nardil is notorious for packing on the lbs so for that reason I'd prefer to not give it another trial.
> > I'm not terrible at the moment just having much more breakthrough depression and cycling. Hoping that my doctor and I may be able to find an adjunct that may make sense to address either the weight gain issue (which in turn I think would help mood) or the breakthrough depression. So it goes....
>
> BTW some posts are best to just ignore.

Hi, I know many dread weight gain on phenelzine, but for me it was somnolence. Attacks of it- Good job I got off the train for work at the last stop . Many times I'd get woken up by the driver. Trains were the worst, but anything that came without motion- book, TV & films (yes and snoring in the cinema lol.)
Bupropion helped that for a time too. Also lofepramine was ok. Modafinil was hopeless. Tolerance built instantly. More recently I've been looking into nootropics. Centrophenoxine has been helping me wake up earlier (some times) at 750mg twice daly. Just added citicoline to see if it augments before I try one of the recetams.
Oh, for weight gain on Phenelzine eat more PROTEIN. Lower your carbs to 1/4 your calorie intake. And eat protein BEFORE anything else. I found this good for losing appetite. But have SOME carbs- without them you may develope Ketoacidosis. Protein shakes are perfect.



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