Posted by bleauberry on March 21, 2014, at 10:34:02
In reply to Adding low dose Nortrityline to Prozac, posted by BusuB on March 20, 2014, at 18:02:20
Try 5mg. To do that, empty the capsule, divide the powder into 2 approximately equal size piles. Doesn't have to be exact. Then either load your dose back into an empty size OO gel cap from a health food store, or simply spread it on applesauce or mix in juice. Won't taste good, so swallow quickly.
I was on Nort for a few months. I started at 2.5mg, worked up to 10mg, tried to go higher, ended up at 5mg as my best dose.
Each person is uniquely different, so I do not buy the premise of accepting whatever dosage amounts the industry gives us. The right dose is only found through self discovery, not from a label or a generally accepted consensus. imo
Someone might point out scientific evidence that "suggests" lower doses "may not" be enough. Obviously, those words are not very exact or factual. The right dose is....the right dose that helps you feel the best possible, whatever size that happens to be. Could be 1mg or could be 200mg. Depends on the person.
When I went up to 10mg and higher, I felt what you feel....the over-caffeinated feeling. Actually at those higher doses it worsened my sleep because of the stimulation. Nortriptyline is going to keep more norepinephrine in action, which is in the adrenaline family. Prozac by itself boosts brain levels of norepinephrine quite a bit too. So it is probably the synergy of the two together that is making norepinephrine as sensitive as it is.
Yeah, at this point I would try a lower custom made dose, and eventually as your body adjusts you may be able to go to 10mg and be good with it.
The best sleep I had on 8 years of prozac was when I added low dose zyprexa (5mg). Second best for me was ultra low dose remeron (7mg or less). Third best was Lunesta.
In the meantime, through your journeys, in the weeks and months ahead, study up on herbal approaches to combat these areas:
Antimicrobial (bacterial, fungal, and viral)
Anti-inflammation
Anti-toxinAnd take a really close look at the grocery cart before you buy. You know how it is if you put garbage into a computer program? You get garbage results, right? It is the same thing with the human body. There is so much stuff on the market that is bad for a lot of people, not everyone, but a lot, especially the sick ones, and these things are commonly accepted as being perfectly fine. They absolutely are not. In that category would be things like gluten, corn that does not specify non-gmo, not enough colors in the meal (should be mostly veggies and fruits, the meat is the side dish), and cut down on sugars of all kinds where ever possible.
This stuff is really important because what it all does is pave the path for you to be well without meds at some point in the future. Your psychiatric symptoms, in my opinion, as well as my symptoms and pretty much everyone else here....is because of something wrong in one of the 3 categories I mentioned above. Those are fixable. We don't need to know exactly what is wrong or exactly what we are fixing. It is basically a blanket unmbrella approach that covers a wide range of possibilities. There is no testing or expertise in the world right now to be able to pinpoint these things with any accuracy. But we don't need to.
Hope this helps.
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