Posted by Emme_V2 on April 2, 2013, at 23:50:45
In reply to Re: Long-term antidepressant studies )) tensor, posted by Scars R. Stories on April 2, 2013, at 19:21:59
> > > Oh, my opinions are based completely on clinical observations - observation about myself and about 10 others. I gained HALF MY BODY WEIGHT (was 120 lbs, became 170) on Remeron. Others gained and could not exercise the weight off, all started craving sweets like mad. ONE person I encountered took 90 mg/night and didn't gain a pound...though she had an eating disorder. And was on so many other meds it would be a puzzle to figure out the sum effect.
> > > The effects of Remeron felt to me very similar to my experience with Clozaril. It's documented effects on cortisol, insulin, and blood lipids, along with its slowing of the metabolism, now documented based on long-term research (observations) and mechanism of action makes me think that the powers that be are very correct in their reclassification of this medication from antidepressant to sleep aid. And I think that medications that cause type II Diabetes should only be used as a last resort, and with much caution.
> > > Two rather respected, experienced psychiatrists that I see have both told me that from their observations over many years, they think it is not an antidepressant, and do not like to prescribe it because of its effect on appetite and weight.
> >
> > I'm sorry to hear Remeron didn't work out for you or your friends, fortunately there many others to try. Remeron has been very helpful to me over the years. I think its efficacy as an antidepressant is well established.
> >
> > http://www.stacommunications.com/journals/diagnosis/2009/09-sep-09/wnicr09-09.pdf
> >
> > http://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736%2809%2960046-5/abstract
> >
> > /tensor
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> I'm not talking about my "friends". I'm talking about people that I've encountered while working at an inpatient psychiatric facility. What would cause you to think I'm speaking of friends? Is that supposed to be some kind of passive aggressive slight about my clinical expertise? That would be silly.
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> WHY DO PEOPLE HERE NOT KNOW WHAT LEGITIMATE ACADEMIC, MEDICAL RESEARCH IS?
I detected no passive-aggressiveness in tensor's post. The 10 others sounds like a small enough number that they might have been friends or acquaintances you encountered over some period of time in a setting as a patient or in a support group. Your post didn't particularly suggest a research setting per se, just a clinical one.There have been a number of folks here with training in the sciences, including medical as well as other fields. Instead of yelling, why not tell us a little bit about whatever study you worked in? I'm sure it would be interesting - people here tend to be fairly curious and like to hear about what the research community is doing.
BTW, Remeron was a very effective AD for me. I had to stop it for a short time, however, and when I restarted, it didn't work again. But it was good for a while. The weight gain was a down side though.
emme
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