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Re: Nardil Users/Experts, what to do for B6 deficiency » gilmourr

Posted by ChicagoKat on December 1, 2012, at 10:59:25

In reply to Re: Nardil Users/Experts, what to do for B6 deficiency, posted by gilmourr on December 1, 2012, at 6:12:23

> > > That's too bad that you couldn't do parnate, it's powerful. If you can tolerate it, it's great stuff.
> > >
> > > Sucks that you have to be on stimulants, I've heard it's basically a bad game to play because they can't be used long term, I really hope you try and get on an AD rather than a stimulant as they make things a lot worse.
> > >
> >
> > My pdoc and I have tried *everything* except of course the Parnate. Ritalin is the ONLY thing that gives me relief, if only for a couple of hours. I live for those few hours. I'm open to suggestions if anyone has them. b/c gilmourr, you're right, stims are a real pain in the *ss and certainly don't give one continuous relief.
> >
> > I had ECT and it was one of the worst experiences of my life. It was a nightmare to me. And in the end, it not only did not help; it made my depression/anxiety worse. And it somehow made my meds stop working. Before I had ECT I was on Lexapro and it was actually working a little bit. Now nothing works, or if it does, it only works for a few days. The only thing that was a positve result of ECT was that after I had it, I had a revulsion for alcohol. I used to binge drink once or twice a week. After ECT the thought of even a glass of wine with dinner makes me sick. But I can't tell you enough how much I hated ECT and wish to god I had not done it.
> >
> > Thanks for your input gilmourr, and good luck with the Nardil, I hope it has not pooped out on you the way it did with me. You're right; if it does work, it's amazing. Take care,
> > Kat
> >
>
> Have you thought about instead of trialing drugs investigating why they don't work? For instance, some malnutrition's basically block the ability of AD's to work. B6 is involved in helping synthesize almost ALL neurotransmitters and vitamins so if that's deficient, most likely you will not be able to use anything.
>
> Read! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vitamin_B6
>
> Also if you're lactose I was thinking that maybe you have low levels of calcium which is super important for neurotransmitter release. I'm not exactly sure how this works, but I believe with a deficiency in calcium there can become a huge issue with neurotransmitter release.
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> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chemical_synapse#Neurotransmitter_release
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> Also, folate, B12 and B6 are super important to keep within normal ranges when using medications.
>
> I'd really check your vitamin levels ON drugs. Because to me it seems that people where meds just DONT work, there's got to be a reason. If you've used meds wiht SERT, NE, DOP, GABA, those are mainly the chemicals and it should work. If it doesn't work, there's got to be a reason WHY your body isn't releasing/building up neurotransmitters.
>

I take B6 as an extra suupplement, I drink lots of milk, I take a vitamin D supplement, I take an MVI that's made for people who have had gastric bypass so it's much higher in the levels of vitamins, I take fish oil, I take Mag citrate every other day. I've tried Deplin, no effect. But I really should ask my regular doc if maybe we should check a B12 level. Since I'm a vegetarian plus some people are unable to absorb it orally and need regualr injectionns of it. So I will ask her on Tues when I see her.

I asked my pdoc if he had an idea why everything poops out on me, and does so usually very quickly. He said I must have a great, efficient liver. I said I need to start drinking heavily. Like I said, this problem was nowhere near as bad until I had ECT. I wonder what ECT did to me?!
Kat


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Its got me begging on my hands and knees
So take me to emergency
Cause somethin seems to be missing
Somebody take the pain away
Its like an ulcer bleeding in my brain


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