Posted by Lou Pilder on September 23, 2012, at 19:46:39
In reply to Lou's reply--logos » brynb, posted by Lou Pilder on September 23, 2012, at 19:27:33
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> > > b,
> > > You wrote,[...abuse a lot of pills..benzos...blackouts...Z drugs..and gabapentin...in a funk...oxycodone...I needed to "check out"...I blacked out...fell into a worse depression...brain damage?...What's going on here?...].
> > > I know what's going on here and of a way for you to come out of the darkness of depression and into a marvelous light. This light came to David and Solomon and Moses and Isaiah and others that reveals a way to overcome darkness by having a Sun that heals by shining its stripes upon those that are in a condition like yours, asking, what is going on, as being lost to find their way out of the darkness of depression. And it has been revealed to me that all we like (redacted by respondent).
> > > Now many here already know that I have been writing here about a Great Gulf that separates two kingdoms. The two kingdoms are the kingdom of the mind of flesh, or the natural man, or carnal mind, and the spiritual kingdom of the spiritual mind. And I have been attempting to show the way to passover the Great gulf and leave the carnal mind behind and enter a new realm where there is peace and joy and all things are new. Gone is depression and fear. Gone are all tears. Gone are addiction and pain. Gone is death. And it can be here on earth like it is in that kingdom, a place in your heart called paradise. I tell you today, you could be in paradise.
> > > The prophet Danial wrote of this kingdom. Abraham went to this kingdom. And Abraham was visited by one that I know. And He gave me the same prescription to the keys to the kingdom of peace and joy and life.
> > > You see, the people in the paradise kingdom (redacted by respondent) have overcome. They are kings, not slaves. They get up every morning with a smile on their face and show the world all the love in their heart. They are kings and priests after the order of the Rider on the white horse whose name has been revealed to me as Melvin Chizedek.
> > > Now Abraham met this person and believed him and followed him into the spiritual kingdom. And this person is here today to follow into the kingdom of life, out of the kingdom of death.
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> > Lou,
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> > Your response is more detailed than usual and I appreciate it. With that, though, I must emphasize that I no longer abuse/use (addictive) substances, and it is the (very) rare occasion that I try to check out. As I mentioned earlier, I don't even drink--never--not even a glass of wine. This occurrence was a one night deal that left me pondering its effects. I am fortunate to not be stuck in the cycle of addiction. I am not so worried about addiction or death anymore, either, for in addressing and acknowledging my depression properly, I am generally swayed away from wanting to self-medicate and/or extinguish myself.
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> > I appreciate the spiritual path and am open to ideas other than meds, but only if these suggestions are somehow rooted in logic, even the slightest bit.
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> You wrote,[...I..am open to ideas other than meds...if rooted in logic..].
> You know, what I have been writing here in an attempt to free the captives from depression/addiction is about the {word}. Now {logos} is Greek for {word}. The word, {logic} comes from {logos}. This leads to {intelligence} and {speech}.
> You see, there is a lot of intelligence in the universe. We are not able to understand everything. Some things come to us by direct revelation and somethings come from logically concluding from facts.
> There is the fact that the universe exists. Now if it came from nothing, would that be logical?
> Loub,
Now in the scriptures that the Jews use, there reads that in the beginning, God in those scriptures {said}, let there be light. So the creation of light was by that God speaking, by the word, the logos of that god, the intelligence of that god. So in those scriptures, we see a creative god as starting a beginning that we know of now.
So when one looks up at the evening sky and sees the stars, is it logical that there is no creation, or do the heavens declare the glory of God?
Lou
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