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Re: What are these symptoms?

Posted by bleauberry on April 22, 2012, at 7:40:24

In reply to What are these symptoms?, posted by Roslynn on April 21, 2012, at 11:16:35

Those symptoms are within the anxiety spectrum primarily but overlap into depression and possibly schizo-affective spectrum. Go to 10 different doctors and they could tell you 10 different things because it is not clear cut. Not black and white.

To answer your question more directly, what are these symptoms, I would say one or all of these:
1. Too much adrenaline/epinephrine/norepinephrine stuff going on.
2. Not enough gaba/serotonin stuff going on.
3. Some sort of foreign substance interfering with neurotransmitter production, neuro regulation, or functionality of their respective receptors. Metals, plastics, petroleums, infection toxins.

What could cause these kinds of imbalances? Adrenal issues for sure....cortisol too low or cortisol too high or cortisol all over the map outside its intended pattern. Too low, too high, same symptoms....runaway adrenaline.

How to approach treatment depends on your personal comfort zone. There are some herbs that can calm that stuff down within minutes. There are a few for depression and anxiety. Some of them just happen to balance or modulate the adrenals/cortisol at the same time. Longterm = rhodiola rosea, short term = skullcap, lemon balm, passionflower, valerian. Vitamins include all of the Bs, C, and minerals.

Chromium might be especially important to help balance any sugar/glucose issues involved, and selenium to help negate some of the damage of toxic metals. I mention those things simply because they directly cause symptoms as you described.

Longterm chronic unsuspected occult infections can throw the brain into turmoil due to all the toxic chemicals they release into the bloodstream. Talking about things like lyme, similar other lyme-like bacteria, candida fungus, and a handful of others. There are a handful of herbs with the strength to suppress these things in general fashion since we will probably never know the exact pathogen involved.

Time to take a close detective look at foods that go in the grocery cart. People who have never suspected or identified a food sensitivity problem are usually stunned when they discover symptoms as severe as yours can actually come from eating the wrong stuff. It takes a bit of detective work doing rotation/elimination diets to probe for potential problems. The most common ones are gluten and dairy, others include citrus, nuts, and eggs, but any food is suspect. It's more expensive, but you will do better no matter what you do if your foods are organic not conventional and if they are fresh prepared not processed.

If you just want to go to a pdoc and get meds then who knows, those 10 doctors I mentioned earlier, well, your 10 scripts would probably include several choices of ssri antidepressants, a couple benzos, antipsychotics, and mood stabilizers. For fastest knock down of symptoms you would want to look at the benzos and antipsychotiucs, very low doses, but understand none of these are longterm fixes and none will do a thing to resist or reverse the actual disease process in place.

So basically, if it were me I would want some immediate relief which could be meds or herbs or both, but I would want to also put on my longterm detective cap to start eliminating....or finding...possible root causes.

Just a sidenote, at my worst my psychiatric symptoms could be described exactly as you described in your post. That is a rather common presentation in neuro lyme, which I have, but there are other things to rule in/rule out also.


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