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Re: Benzo free med suggestions for early awakening » sigismund

Posted by Vincent_QC on March 30, 2012, at 8:43:35

In reply to Re: Benzo free med suggestions for early awakening, posted by sigismund on March 27, 2012, at 13:59:01

> Well the night before last I woke at 1am and despite temazepam did not really return to sleep, and then was a wreck all day.
>
> Last night at 6pm I took around 10mg trimipramine and slept much better. Normally I don't sleep deeply enough to dream so it was nice to have some last night.

Hi mister,
I plan to ask my Family Doc next week about a med to help me to fall asleep faster and stay asleep and I read that trimipramine (surmontil) is by far one of the best med as a sleep aid so maybe I should try it?

Right now I take some mirtazapine (Remeron) but can't take more than 3.5 mg if so I feel the noradrenaline effect the next day ( I know it's not normal but i'm very sensitive with all the meds who act as a potent A2 antagonist or NE reputake) and have worse anxiety...also it's not working anymore, so have to take extra dose of benzo meds (Klonopin and Xanax or sometimes valium but that one do nothing even at 20 mg dose) all the time at night to be able to fall asleep and return to sleep when i'm awake...

For the trimipramine, do you know the lower dosage needed to induce sleep without having too much problem with the noradrenaline, since the trimipramine don't act directly as a noradrenaline reputake but more as a A1 + A2 (less potent than the Remeron on that one I think) antagonist, who is different from the others TCA's? Also do you know if it's better to go with the Doxepin (another potent H1 antagonist) since i'm having chronic tension headache (I assume that the Doxepin is worse cause of it's effect on the NE reputake as well as the A1 and A2 effect?

I'm very sensitive to the H1 antagonist effect, so I don't need a high dose normally.

I used in the past the seroquel as a sleep aid but I try it again 4 months ago and almost had a heart attack with it...seriously my heart rate was too high on it, I assume it's because of it's effect on the A1 receptor...

Since now my anxiety is all related to somatization symptoms mainly heart issues(tachycardia , irregular heart beat, low blood pressure, chronic chest pain and left arm numbness) and also head pain (tension headache, jaw pain, eyes pain)... I need a med who will not make me feel like I will die from a heart attack, if you understand what I mean...Also most of the time now I wake up in the middle of the night sweating from the forehead and my back and with a panic attack, it's happening every night now and I HATE IT!!!

Anyway thanks for any kind of advises about that med... really want to know how it's working, if the effect last all day long like feeling tired forever and like on some illegal drug until noon, if it's affecting the heart rate and the blood pressure since mine is on the low side and take some Inderal to lower the heart rate...also drug interractions with it?

Thanks ;-)

Vince


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