Posted by Lou Pilder on September 26, 2010, at 20:50:33
In reply to Re: Crazy meds IS crazy, posted by Dymphna on September 26, 2010, at 14:18:58
> Hi.
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> You were banned for violating the Crazy Meds user agreement. Just as Dr. Bob has a user agreement, so does Crazy Meds. CMs' just happens to include personal attacks on their moderators (which includes using curse words instead of their names).
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> Additionally, what you have posted here (my writings) technically falls under the legal heading "expectation of privacy", as you were warned not to do it when you signed up for Crazy Meds:
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> "You agree to not copy text or images, outside of fair use guidelines, to other sites without the express permission of the author. So if it is a post on the forum, you'll have to ask whoever wrote it (see the section on former members) for permission."
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> We keep IP numbers on file, as does every other fora on the internet.
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> We do, however, appreciate the Google hits you are giving Crazy Meds by repeatedly writing the name of our site.
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> Have a blessed day.
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>
> Dymphna
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> (who never thought you were an addict; I just thought your drug combo was likely harming you)
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> > Sometimes I post on Crazy Meds, not often though. I posted a question about how the dexedring was making me tired and this I got this nasty post from a moderator.
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> > They think I am a drug junky or something like that!
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> > And I know you are going to think that I am stupid, but the post below actually made me cry. I think because it made me so angry.
> > ____________________________________________
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> > Overwhelming tiredness is completely normal for someone who is not ADD and should not be being prescribed stimulants in the first place.
> >
> > In your other thread, you said you were being prescribed stimulants "for depression". Let's take a look at your meds:
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> > Dx'd with Bipolar depression & Anorexia (restricting subtype)
> >
> > Current meds:
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> > Parnate 100 mg
> > Nortriptyline 75 mg
> > Adderall XR 30 mg
> > Trileptal 600 mg
> > Klonopin .5 mg
> >
> > I'll go through them one by one.
> >
> > Parnate: an anti-depressant with a usual dose of 30 mg per day, but a max daily dosage of 60 mg (you're on 100 mg), that is absolutely contraindicated for use with -
> > --- Nortriptyline (or any dibenzazepine-related entities or tricyclic antidepressants)
> > --- Carbamazepine (that would be that Trileptal you're taking)
> > --- Sympathomimetics (that would be ANY of the amphetamines you have been taking)
> > --- A whole bunch of different foods that your doctor should have told you about
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> > Nortriptyline: a tricyclic anti-depressant which falls into the dibenzazepine class and the sympathomimetics class.
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> > Adderall XR: an amphetamine of the sympathomimetics class with a recommended dose of 25 mg per day of which you are taking 30 mg day.
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> > Trileptal: an anti-convulsant used as a mood-stabilizer, but contraindicated in use with Parnate.
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> > Klonopin: a benzodiazepine approved/utilized for seizure disorders, anxiety disorders, and the manic side of bipolar. It is not Rx'd for people sitting in the depressive end of bipolar as it simply makes them more depressed.
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> >
> > Ok, now that we have the fact that every single med you are on, save the Klonopin, is in complete contradiction with one another, we need to look at two things: who is trying to kill you, and why.
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> > If you have one doctor who is prescribing these medications, they are simply incompetent, and should be reported to the authorities for gross negligence. If you have multiple doctors, they should all be reported for not looking at your meds list. You are showing them your meds list, right?
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> > If it is you that is responsible for making sure you obtain these medications, in whatever way possible, you are in need of therapy far more than you are in need of a place like CrazyMeds. Please do not ask any more questions along this vein. Your data does not add up, and we have an extremely low tolerance for such things.
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> > Dymphna
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> > Moderator
> >
Friends,
I come to praise Dymphna, not to (redacted by respondent) her.
The deaths of members live after they die, the lives that are saved can not always be known.
You see, Dymphna could have addressed the aspects of the post in question from a visionary perspective. She could see that the combining of the drugs in question could have the potential in the future, if others take those drugs in combination, for those to potentially die from that. She questions if it is the member that is responsible for how one could take the combination of drugs in question. Now I do not know what Dymphna had in mind there and I am not going to speculate any conclusion for such, for she also questions how a prescriber could prescribe the combination in question when the liturature that I am aquainted with has that deaths have resulted from some of the combinations listed.
Now there is the question of liability. If someone that is in charge of a site like these knows that a combination of some drugs could cause death, and does not point that out to the members of the forum, could the moderator be held liable if a member takes that combination and dies if the moderator does not post a warning? And moreso, what if the moderator fosterd to the members that it is OK to take the combination? And could not indifference to the post be the same as fostering what the post purports? And does the indifference have to be deliberate or not? Is there not a standard of care, such as negligence, that a moderstor of a site like these be held to? Would Dymphna be negligent if she did not address the post with the warnings of contraindications?
Then there is what is known as the reckless disregard for the truth. Now if the liturature states that a particular combination of drugs could cause death, could anyone then say that the liturature is false without posting proof of such? Is that another Dr. somewhere disregards what the liturature states a valid reason to ignore that the liturature has that people have died from taking such combinations of drugs? There is a standard and it is what it is. Combinations of drugs that can cause death are combinations of drugs that can cause death.
Lou
poster:Lou Pilder
thread:963115
URL: http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/20100926/msgs/963908.html