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Re: strange anxiety sensation

Posted by violette on August 21, 2010, at 13:12:36

In reply to Re: strange anxiety sensation » violette, posted by Phillipa on August 21, 2010, at 11:18:37

Hi Phillipa,

In regard to Klein, different theory describes the same thing in many different ways sometimes! I don't always pay much attention to who said what, but for current attachment stuff, I like D. Wallin. For object relations in general, G. Gabbard is a must read...

As far as traveling goes, it's the uncertainty element that causes that type of anxiety. I've traveled too with no problems. It's the trigger of uncertainty that amplifies the loss of control fear-anxiety expression...example-if you're living with your parents-and your future is dependent upon their decision-it could trigger that state. Or if you were somewhere potentially unsafe...such as if you were in the Dominican Republic-the tourist areas are safe, but if a situation occurred where you weren't sure where you'd move to if a flood occured..that might trigger the reaction. Another example could be not knowing where you are going next or how long you are going to stay there, being in temporary housing with plans to move etc.

The uncertainty-renumeration-no specific fear (OCD) plus more targeted fears (different types of anxiety) many times basically can be traced back to how your parents related to you. If you have both, you might have some elements of a disorganized childhood attachment style.

Your brain develops faulty wiring from how your parents were. As a child, you don't have higher-level emotions and defense mechanisms to cope. So you split, dissociate, fantasize, whatever you did to cope. When you get older, you have more complex emotions and no longer dissociate, split, etc. Though you might still do it at times but almost always, it becomes milder as human beings cannot function using those defenses. Since you don't have the extreme coping mechanisms anymore to stop the fears, you have different forms of anxiety.

A general way I look at it is: renumerating about if the parent will come to you and their actions/reactions to you = uncertainty = OCD; being scared of a more specific reaction/action of your parents = anxiety. Both related to loss of control of the situation (of oneself), but the OCD weighs more heavily there, just imo. Back then, as a child, your life depended on the caregiver. When a parent is unpredictable or overwhelming, it touches on death instincts, then gets hardwired in your amygdala-the reptilian part of your brain associated with instincts.

The preoccupied element of disorganized attachment = OCD = renumeration with no specific fear as this is what you may have done repeatedly as an infant/child with an uncertain caregiver. Especially with neglect. Other anxieties could be different fears of more specific parental reactions...

As far as temperment/traits are involved-if you were not an overtly reactive person-say you are more fearful than agressive; more introverted than extroverted-and didn't cry for attention and instead, internalized the emotion (again out of fear)-you might form a haibt of renumerating about the parent coming to your safety.

Your parents own attachment style greatly contributes to this. It's not all genetics if your family has a history of mental illness. Another reminder how focusing on diagnosis codes can be detrimental to finding a solution to your illness. Well I'm a bit scatterbrained right now and not sure if I explained it that well, but maybe you get the picture.

I am going to shut up now. GGG has been suffering for quite some time, and as a very fearful person myself with multiple types of anxieties, I thought I'd interject here.

 

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