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Re: Nardil failing - bedridden, depressed, suicidal » Enigma

Posted by pedr on May 1, 2010, at 11:18:23

In reply to Re: Nardil failing - bedridden, depressed, suicidal ed, posted by Enigma on May 1, 2010, at 9:20:32

Hi Engima,

> I tried provigil and it didn't seem to have any effect on me at all. I don't think I tried Nortriptiline but it sounds familiar.

provigil had no effect on me either. I spoke to my PDoc Thurs and he said to try 200mg. The problem for me is that I don't mind being moderately tired/stoned since my anxiety used to be so intense. However, predicting when I will fall asleep at my desk is impossible. One week it will happen repeatedly and the next not at all. Don't get it.

Nortiptiline is often used to augment Nardil. I'm no doc but if I were in your shoes I'd ask about it.

> I'm much better than I was when I posted the first message. Not crying, not suicidal, etc. Who knows why. It seems as if I didn't take Nardil for days, but I was on it. Maybe I just hit a real low.

Thank goodness. I know how you feel now though. You have that "I'm just not in control. That crash will happen again at some point and there's nothing I can do about it". I've crashed about 5 times since being on Nardil. The crashes have varied from feeling completely sad and just watching TV for 4 days to strongly wanting to be dead for a few days - everything around me being black, forbidding, terrifying and empty. I actually used the phrase to my wife and PDoc "It's as if Nardil has left the building". But after 3-4 days I "come up" again. I have no idea why this is and it is pretty f****** distressing.
Perhaps the only positive is that we both know that the dark crashes are finite in duration.

> I'm pretty tired all the time too, about +30 overweight, but not from Nardil, from atypical antipsychotics, and I can't lose the weight. I'm on a super low cal diet, and if I lose weight at all, one big meal, and I gain it ALL back. It doesn't make sense.

Hmmm well that's not good news for me. I look like I've strapped a bed pillow to my belly. I've had to buy an entire new wardrobe including belts and boxers! People ask if I'm pregnant... (I'm not) I saw a dietician and she recommended veg, high protein, fruit, lower carbs and no bagels <sob, sob>. I was extremely apprehensive to change my diet since I have IBS-C which, upon eating the wrong food or drink, can result in days of incapacitating abdominal pain. However so far so good. I think the Nardil has helped make my gut less sensitive to fruit, meat and some dairy which is great. My first yoghurt in 5 years!

Best,
Pete


Treatment Resistant depression, anxiety, OCD: 13 years
IBS-C & GERD: 8 years
Current meds: 90mg Nardil, 300mg Zantac, 20mg Prilosec


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