Posted by Lou Pilder on January 1, 2010, at 19:49:49
In reply to Re: New Year...New Plan, Advice needed...., posted by bulldog2 on January 1, 2010, at 18:00:25
> > > > After more than 12 years of benzo's and anti-depressants, I feel I have lost too much of the real me.
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> > > Be sure you're not confusing symptoms with the 'real you'. Drugs do little to take away from the basic person you are and are really designed to eliminate the symptoms of mental illness which do much more to abscond the 'real you' than the side effects of most drugs. I can not function as the 'real' me without Lithium, period. I lose myself to the symptoms of my illness without a simple metal.
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> > I understand where you are coming from
> > Phidippus....but I must say in my case and in testimonies of others I have read about and posted with....long term PDrugs can and do have an effect on ones basic personality.
> > I think it stands to reason that by ingesting Meds that dull the responses to Life, a person will "adjust" to these dulling effects by incorporating new responses and thinking patterns in response to Life's challenges, after years and years of antidepressants, tranquilizers and mood stabilizers.
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> > At least I believe that is true in my case.
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> > The Meds we take take have a blanket effect on our nervous system, and our reaction to Life.
> > That is the purpose for many of these Meds.
> > To compensate or lessen our bodies OVER-REACTION to stress, trauma , and misplaced thinking patterns.
> > They DO serve their purpose by dampening our CNS
> > so we can deal with reality and our problems, challenges and attain our Goals.
> > Unfortunately....these Meds cannot be "turned-off" selectively...we cannot get properly excited when something great happens in our life...nor do we fall into a suicidal despair when things done go our way.
> > PDrugs are a mixed bag...and we take the good with the bad.
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> > > Does the cancer patient lose themselves to the bone-burning effects of their chemotherapy? No, but when the cancer spreads to their brain, they certainly do. We mentally disabled may not have cancer encroaching on our minds, but instead were born with inadequacies instilled in our thinking organ and those inadequacies can cripple us in an instant. We toil with invisible disabilities and need medication just as much as the sufferer of MS.
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> > > Without medication we can't be ourselves, otherwise riddled with anxiety, fending off voices or riding the waves of impossible emotions. An array of pills are available to us and more than likely we choose the pills that make us feel best and suit our basic selves. Pills can never make us something we are not because we reject those that make us feel not-ourselves.
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> > Again...you raise some excellent points!
> > I believe in many cases these drugs are every bit as life saving as insulin to the diabetic.
> > Many are predisposed to severe mental illness that history records drove them to an untimely grave or worse.
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> > I guess I need to find out if I can be one that functions without them.
> > Maybe I cannot...but I feel I must try.
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> > Thanks for your insight, and I will keep you posted
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> This obsession with the real you/me really baffles me. I think this concept is overrated. Has it ever occurred to you that the real you may be a mentally ill person with depression. I don't know but that may be the case. People born without legs wear prosthetic ones. Are they changing the real you? The deaf often get implants to help them experience sounds. Are you afraid you are offending God? For me the reality is life is about being as happy as I can be and if I require assistance so be it.
> Nature is not always kind in her creations. The real you may not be a happy person. Just take whatever path makes you feel good wether it is drug free or on drugs.
> You appear to feel guilty about being on meds. There is an undercurrent of that in your posts. If it turns out you need meds well that is the real you making the decision. Try being med free if you wish. But you are not required by any edict other than the opinions of others to be on or off of drugs. If you really don't want to go off of drugs than don't feel compelled to go off.
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> You have posted this multiple times and you get the same answers. So tell us what is the real issue.Is there something else other than what you have told us?
>bd2,
I am unsure as to what you are wanting to mean here. If you could post answers to the following, then I could have the opportunity to respond accordingly.
A. In,[...This xxxxxxxxx with the real you/me...], what criteria do you use to write that the member's wanting to return to a life before taking chemicals for 10 years is an xxxxxxxxx? If it is an xxxxxxxxx, could you post here as to as if it is a good xxxxxxxx or not?
B In,[...are you afraid of offending God?...], could you post here what criteria you used to write that, and what God you are referring to, and what siginificance it could be if the member is or is not afraid of offending a God that they may cherish and worship and give service to, and not want to offend that God?
C. In,[...you appear to feel guilty about being on...]
Could you post here what criteria you used to write that guilt is apparent to you? If so, could that guilt be good or not?
D. In,[...tell us what is the real issue...], (redacted by respondent)
Lou
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