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Re: Parnate distinct diff.effects,acute and long term?

Posted by ColoradoSnowflake on October 28, 2009, at 18:02:01

In reply to Re: Parnate distinct diff.effects,acute and long term? » ColoradoSnowflake, posted by Sunbath on October 26, 2009, at 7:14:55

> Hi Sunbath:

What a great post! It's very interesting to know just how the Parnate is affecting you. I think your (yoouthful) body is going to respond much much faster.. That's good! You need to be successful in school!!

I'll try to answer some of your questions.

You must also have a really good pdoc who motivated you enough to get through that time!Is he treating many patients with MAOIs? And how old is she/he?

I do have a really good pdoc. He is 70. He went through his residency here in colorado at the same time as Dr. Steven Dubovsky did, who is a nationally known expert in pharmacology and mood disorders. They have all been big on Parnate for all these years! My pdoc has also worked in an excellent psychiatric inpatient hospital here. I think this kind of experience gives him a lot of confidence with drugs other pdocs feel are scary.

> I don't have a pdoc who is experienced in MAOIs, which isn't good, but I never had a better one and I really doubt that there were many in my country who are experienced..

I think you can nicely give your pdoc a little education in MAOIs!
>
>
. I really DON'T know what should be my target dose, when to increase it and how long to stay on a certain level. Did your pdoc tell you to get up to a certain "higher" dose?

Right at first I was SO afraid of Parnate! I took 10mg for a week, then 20mg. for a week, then 30mg. was where he wanted me to stay for a while. Then I wasn't afraid of it. He said I could increase it every 5 days up to 80mg. without calling him. So I did. 80 mg seemed kind of "chemical to me" 70mg seemed the best, and I'm not sure why. I didn't feel good at all except I had these patches of feeling really good which encouraged me to keep going.I think it's really hard to determine what the right dose is. I had read that it doesn't work for a lot of people because they don't take enough. So I kind of took as much as I could tolerate. Bulldog asked if there was a "sweet spot" for Parnate. I think there is, but you have to find it yourself!! I was way more worried about taking too little than I was about taking too much.

> I'll try to get an "official" approval taking a higher dose in a few weeks again :P
>
That's a good idea.
>
> I understand now that the first weeks/months will be rough! That's totally ok and I accept it. It's just so strange and hard to believe that what I felt after 10days was something else since I had a complete response. I don't want to accept that this was only some amphetamine high :(

I don't think it was just an amphetamine high. I think it was just showing you it will be a good fit for you.

> Now that I am on 50mg (increased from 40mg) for a few days I'm again feeling much better.
> I'm feeling good (physically) without the inner tension and anxiety I always had the last years! My body feels so good, as if I was suddenly lighter by many kilos :D

Me, too. That tension and anxiety is gone! That was gone along with suicidal thoughts, from early on.

> I absolutely hope that the final, steady effect parnate would give me would address this inner tension feeling too and that I would get rid of it for years!
> It's as if I was finally awaken from a bad dream that lasted for 8years+. I had forgotten how a "normal" body feeling felt like long ago it seems.
> And that are only the somatic problems parnate got rid off so far.. I have much more energy when I wake up in the morning and am motivated to getting things done and most importantly mood is good most of the time OCD is non existent so far and the overall anxiety level is near zero.

Me, too!!
>
> There's still that afternoon drowsiness problem though and yesterday when trying to learn something for a course, I found out that even when I'm not tired I'm having some memory problems including difficulty concentrating. This isn't good of course when learning..

You needed a BIG cup of coffee!!
All that keeps getting better for me, but I still have a coffee in the late afternoon!


> I also cought me unusually often forgetting what I was about to do, or telling people things twice because I had forgotten that I already told them a few days ago. Is this normal? Did you experience that too at the beginning?

At my age, I experience that all the time!!
Just kidding. sort of


>
> This and the tiredness were bothering me so much that I went shopping yesterday getting very expensive Provigil. The Adrafinil will take another week to arrive and I thought it would be good to be able to compare those 2..

I am SO glad you are doing this!! I am most anxious to know what you think after a week or so on it.

> I only took 50mg because I wanted to be safe and it was already early in the afternoon. It didn't do much, but I noticed an energizing effect as I wasn't as tired as normal at around 5pm.
> Today I slept only 6hours and took 100mg.. well let's see..

I'm so happy you are doing so well!!! and I'm really looking forward to your next update!!!

Take care,
Hugs,
Gayle


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