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Re: Parnate distinct diff.effects,acute and long term?

Posted by bulldog2 on October 24, 2009, at 11:40:07

In reply to Parnate distinct diff.effects,acute and long term?, posted by Sunbath on October 24, 2009, at 7:47:29

> Hi all!
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> I'd really like to know what you think.
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> The last 4-5days for me while still ok haven't been nearly as good as the first 2-3 weeks on 40mg/day (after I increased from 20mg).
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> The effects I felt initially were like a little buzz. I was even wondering if I was feeling high (not really, but it was heading that direction). They appeared when after being on 20mg for over a week and the full daytime sedation had finally left me, I suddenly increased to 40mg/day. Out of a sudden I felt really great! I lost ALL my anxiety, social and somatic, had much more energy (although feeling tired in the afternoon) and mood was MUCH better too.
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> Now the feeling I usually get after some hours after taking each dose is barely noticeable anymore and I feel some of the symptoms coming back at a low level.. somatic and social anxiety for example. It's difficult to tell though because since a few days I'm also trying to quit drinking. I'm no heavy drinker but I got used to drinking 2-4 beers/evening the last years. It made me much more confident socially and improved my mood. So it could partly be some withdrawal symptoms ( I get dependent really fast and notice some light withdrawal symptoms despite not drinking REALLY high doses of alcohol.. I noticed that many many times in the past when I (tried) quitting for a few days).
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>
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> But despite that, I'm really afraid parnate could poop out. Did I only improve because of parnates acute effects, which weren't "true" antidepressant effects? It only took me 10days to feel sooo great. Isn't that quite suspicious?
> Has the real "antidepressant" effect yet to come?I haven't been on Parnate longer than 1 month!
>
> To those who know that "buzz" like feeling: is this some kind of very low amphetamine effect? I mean in character? I know parnate has some amphetamine like properties but at such a low dose as 40mg?!? I thought that was impossible to notice?
> I cannot believe it was the MAO inhibiting effect I felt after only 10days? What did I feel?
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> 2 days ago I tried 50mg and felt some more buzz again.. but I'm sure this will be transient as well?
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> Has anyone any recommendations as to when and how much I should increase my dose?It can't be correct to increase doses each time I grow tolerant to those acute effects can it? Or is there a level where this comfortable feeling won't pass? How much time should I give it at each dose in my case and what should I watch out for?
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> Thanks a lot for reading!!
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> I hope that some of you are able to enjoy this weekend.
> Have a nice weekend all of you!

Parnate or one of its metabolites functions as a stimulant type drug such as ritalin. This initial buzz or euphoria is often confused with its ad effect. This stim effect is not the ad effect and should not be confused with one. As with any stimulant one will build up tolerance to it and often will disappear completely.

 

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