Posted by Budzoid on March 16, 2009, at 20:05:34
In reply to Re: In Defense of Cannabis » Neal, posted by Vincent_QC on March 16, 2009, at 7:03:52
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> > First, let me say I've enjoyed reading the various comments of the contributors to this thread. It got me to thinking about my first experiences with marijuana many years ago.
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> > I remember that for the first maybe 10 times I smoked, I would start laughing. I can't remember what I thought was so funny. Maybe just life. But I would get some explosive laughing fits going on. I remember going to a coffee shop with a friend, and I just couldn't control myself, I thought everything was hilarious.
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> > I've always been a very visual person. I work in the visual arts, and marijuana was like a golden key to a special area for me. A friend of mine had a "forest fire" lamp he'd gotten at a thrift store. The heat of the light bulb caused it to spin and the glass was painted to resemble a forest that was burning. I thought that thing was so cool. I would watch it for a long time.
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> > Of course heightened sense perceptions also occurs with sounds too. I remember laying on the couch with the earphones on listening to the stereo. A whole new world had opened up to me during that period.
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> > I remember smoking hash that was so strong that if you smoked at noon, the next thing you remembered was the sun going down, and it was summer too. We'd just sit there sometimes with the TV on, and it was too much effort to change the channel, so we just left it on one channel, what difference did it make anyway.
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> > But Vincent reminds me that there were some other times much later that weren't so great, starting with the famous pot-paranoia and moving to pot induced panic attacks. It can happen, if you are a sensitive person given to occasional anxiety. That's why I don't recommend it, even though I do have some great memories.
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> Hi Neal,
> Wow...you explain so well what I wanted to said. The "visual" effect of Cannabis don't affect all of those who smooke hash. I just think I was a lot to sensible to it and I also had GREAT time smooking hash when I was a teenager. In fact, that's probably why i'm in life right now, because with that, I was able to forget my misery life and the way people was treating me at school...I was also a lot against all forms of authorities, I mean that I was a lot rebel as well...because the adults at the times always point me as THE only one responsable for what I was living...they never think that the others kids was "bitchy" with me...so drugs was my best friend and I was able to focus on other things with the use of it...and I did a lot of great trips on it...
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> At the time, we had also strong hash...we calling it "Jamaican" hash...it was more expensive but only 2 smalls balls of it, smooke with two heated knifes (don't know the exact expression in english but in french we call this "Blaster")...anyway, 2 "puff" of this hash was giving 4 hours of non-stop astral and visual trip...with a lof of visuals effects and also an improved sound effects... I have so many great memories about this experiences... I was smooking hash before bedtime and jump into my bed and put an old LP of Pink Floyd like "The dark side of the moon" or something like Genesis "Peter Gabriel period of course" and just enjoy the music and let me fall in a deep sleep...with this lovely sensation of entering inside my mattresses...that's was very nice...I don't regret that time, in fact it miss me a lot and in fact when I begin to feel the completely oposite effect around 19 years old, I was frustrated because I was not able to have good trips like I had before...I also had a lot of REAL COOL trips on LSD as well, better than the hash...
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> LSD was the drug of choice for the visual effects and strange sounding effects, for an artist like you, it will probably make you a lot creative and inpired!!! When i'm talking about LSD, i'm talking about pure LSD, not the ones who begin to surfaced in the 90's and who was cut with speed and others dangerous stuff like that...
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> BUT you're right...for people like me, who are more sensible to anxiety, the pot-paranoia and the LSD bad trip are often present... my last trip on LSD at 19 yo was a 12 hours non-stop of panic attack...I remember that at one point, I wanted to jump into the pool and just die under the water... Can you imagine, I see things that never happen...I talk with trees... I ear the winds talking to me, the streets turned into waters with waves...it was crazy as hell but I admit I find a lot of creativity into this kind of experiences...I understand at the same time what the 60's generation wanted to express at the time...
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> Sometimes, to start the LSD more faster, I had the very bad habit of smooking some hash after 30 minutes I taked the small LSD pills. We had strong LSD at the time, around 1989-90...the tangerine ones or the black ones was the most potent of all of them...12 hours for the tangerine and 18-24 hours for the black...
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> I know, some people will told me that I played with the fire and that now I pay for this substances abuses...but I think that's not true... I just had a more sensitive personnality or genetic that let me fall into the circle of bad anxiety and panic trouble but I had the most rewarding experiences of my life on drugs, especially the LSD, who was my drug of choice...the friday was my LSD day in 12th grades...lol
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> I know a lot of others people who was around me at the time (89-90-91-92) and who used the same drugs also often like I was doing and they never had any psychologic or psychotic problems...some of them are now Doctors, others work as teatchers...things like that...
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> Anyway...it was the good old time...now, street drugs are just worse, the crystal meth, speed, exctasy...that's all b*llsh*t... even people with no "genetic" or no anxiety problems to start, will ended up with depressive symptoms and anxiety or psychotics crisis after taking them... The same apply for the "weeds"...it's so potent now, I wonder how someone can smooke it without having a major panic attack. They don't seem to lost their head and have some depersonalisation or loose of reality on it...that's weird... I Can't imagine me smooking weeds now...
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> Sure, I miss that good old time, but since than I move on, I loose interest into drugs and beging to drink more later in my life...but again I stop it, i'm now free of any drugs or alcohol since june 2006...but I will never forgive the goods moments I had on them...You can call it an autodestructive behavior, I call it the better experiences of my life, that's it!!!
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> Some people can judge me on that, I don't care, they will never understand me anyway...
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> I too share a lot in common. I started smoking in the 70's and can honestly say I had a really good, fun teenage/early adult life. I too look back on those times and wish life was that good now.
I also enjoyed my experimentation into the world of hallucionogens(sp?). The 'cid back then was soo pure. The most mind expanding experience was from "shrooms. My best friend and I did way too much one time and I swear we could read the others mind. We completed each others sentences before we could finish. Ahh, those were the good old days.
Speaking of the Floyd, I spent many a nights with my headphones on listening to them and "wishing I was there". I had my dream come true when they finally came to my town back in '94 and I got to experiance them on some "Beaver & Butthead" blotter. Almost a religious experiance!
Anyway, I haven't done 'cid since then and don't really want to now. Maybe I'm getting old.
Since I don't do those kind of things anymore (including Pot smoking), I can talk about them without fear of consequences. But I still say "those were the best years of my life, gone but not forgotten".
I also think my body is now paying for all good times I had in my youth. But you only live once, why not live it to the fullest.
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