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Re: My story and success with Nardil/Stims/JadeK » stargazer2

Posted by JadeKelly on November 26, 2008, at 9:09:46

In reply to My story and success with Nardil/Stims/JadeK, posted by stargazer2 on November 25, 2008, at 22:48:19

> Jade,
>
> I only take from 2.5 to 5 mg of a generic amphetamine salt, which at one time was a substitute for Adderall, which I used to take with Celexa and wellbutrin.

Hi Stargazer, congrats on finding your solution!

That is how I happened to have "leftovers" of that med. It was used as a substitute when my insurance wouldn't cover Adderall or something stupid like that. I once went up to 7.5 mg and had a hypertensive reaction, so I know that is my threshold. I have heard that ADDerall is much riskier than some of the other stims, but I know my limits now.

The fact that you have "leftovers" means its unlikely that you would feel tempted to take more than you should. I think thats often the concern.

So just be careful, I think Adderall is supposed to be the WORST of the stims with MAOI's. Do you carry an antidote? Maybe get one? I have Nifedipine. Was it a full blown crisis? I hope not. No fun.
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> My doc is cool with most everything I suggest now. I think he is dumbfounded with how much better I am and doesn't even understand it. It is so much simplier than the solutions he was proposing. I think we got to the point where after I would fail a med he suggested, I felt I should get a chance to try something I thought might work.

Definately! I would venture to say that most people who get well think like you do. You trust others but eventually that gets old when you feel horrible.
>
> I think the ADD component to my depression was never fully investigated or treated, so the reason for my success was going after the ADD piece of the puzzle, in addition to the depression, resulting in a better response.

Good for you!

Plus it got a little ridiculous treating the depression with antipsychotics, etc. I think the pdocs of today go too far out in left field, treating with any available med, just because they exist and are touted to be so great, when in actuality, they always made me feel worse.

Good for you for saying enough is enough. Its great also that your Doc trusts you enough to go with your choice. Not too many would treat with MAOI and Adderall.
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> I wish I had found my voice sooner to call the shots. My doc may not have listened, but I think he is just grateful that something is working.

He probably thinks he came up with this solution too.

I laughed out loud when I read that.

I don't even care anymore. I'm too busy living and making up for lost time now to be angry and dwell on the years I lost. Hopefully others can learn to not always listen and be good patients, but challenge and suggest other treatments to your doctor.

Good plan. At least you didn't ignore your voice completely and suffer a couple more years. It took me a while to even begin to research solutions for my depression. Don't be hard on youself. When depression hits, its hard to even get your bearings. You're ahead of me!
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> Good luck to you.

Good luck to you also, keep me posted on your success!

~Jade


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