Posted by dav on March 14, 2007, at 8:37:39
In reply to Re: Tianeptine » elanor roosevelt, posted by liliths on March 14, 2007, at 6:42:45
Sorry you're feeling so bad lilith but that is classical depressive thinking caused by your depression and when your depression lifts you will think positively as naturally as you think badly whilst depressed. Just try to never indulge in it and try to keep your humour and do things just to make yourself happy.
Have you tried combination therapy?
Mirtazapine + SSRI
Mirtazapine + wellbruin or othersThey seem to be significantly better, i am currently on mirtazapine + tianeptine and will give this another 4 or 5 weeks (making a total of 6 or 7weeks) before i try mirtazapine+ssri. The mirtazapine keeps my mood good but concentration is a problem. Does the adderall keep you with good concentration or do you bulid tolerance to attention improving effects?
> hi elanor
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> it's SO frustrating, isn't it? Like you, I really had my hopes pinned on the tianeptine. But I will say it was at least a relief to discover they were most likely causing those intense mood swings - mad to sad to mad to sad to mad - ad nauseum
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> I absolutely hate this... and then when I read the posts about how the medications themselves have probably contributed to how bad I am now, I tend to agree with them. I'd always gone off and on meds - usually because the side effects were awful - nothing really seemed to work and my depression seemed to have a life of its own - some years it wasn't there then boom!, it'd strike. But now I've been on them for over 5 years and I can honestly say I'm far worse than ever.
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> Though I can't see myself going off the ADD meds - so basically all I'm taking right now is the focalin xr and klonopin.
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> And I take a lot of supplements. Extra magnesium and a lot of vitamins, amino acids, stuff to help control cortisol levels etc
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> I also just started some nootropics - piracetam & vinopectine - they supposedly enhance brain function and cognition. I have plenty of piracetam & I'll probably just use them both till they're finished. So far I don't feel anything. Still dumb as a rock LOL so I don't know if I'll re-order
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> So like you, I guess I'm hoping if I can gain some functionality, I can at least feel a little better. As is it, I spend more time wishing I were dead, since it's all too apparent I don't know how to live and I'm so damn tired of this perpetual torture. I'm sick of watching myself go down the toilet
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> I have considered re-introducing 100mg wellbutrin back into my afternoon meds but I don't know if it's worth it. I've also been wondering whether something like Aricept might help. Again, I'm thinking about functionality improving my mood because I'm at the point where I don't think they make a med that's going to improve my mood for me. I think I'm too immersed in 'depressive habits' and the truth is, without changing your behavior, nothing will really help. But it is one of those chicken & egg things. If my mood improved, would my behavior return to suuport it or am I so used to feeling awful, I wouldn't know how to act on it. I don't know anymore
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> I'm so fed up trying to 'fix' myself. I know I need more structure... that alone would help. But instead, I spend each day frozen... sitting and rocking and freaking out because I can't take any steps forward.
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> I apologize for how negative this post is. I'm sure you wished you'd never written now - ooohhhh.. that's self-pity for sure LOL I will say at least I've retained some small molecule of seeing just how ridiculous I've become and can occasionally step back and laugh at myself. For whatever that's worth :)
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> what are you planning on trying next?
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> I wish you well :))))))
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> namaste,
> lilith
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> > i'm sorry to hear you had the same problem with the tianeptine. the irritability was a nightmare and getting out of bed in the morning almost impossible. i thought it was the adderall but no. i was so hoping the tianeptine would work. i had even ordered more. for now i am working on the adderall and productivity. some people get by on the mood elevation for a while.
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> > what are you trying next?
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> > hi elanor
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> > > I started to write you when I first read this but then saw you were sick of thinking about your meds so I held off... but I decided I did want to tell you I seemed to have had a very similar experience with the tianeptine and I didn't realize that was probably causing it until I read your post.
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> > > Like you I've noticed I've become REALLY easily angered or so overwhelmed I'll start crying. I was wondering what was doing it and never suspected the tianpetine considering what everyone else has reported. But I'm already so damn crazy I didn't appreciate suddenly losing it in public!!
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> > > anyway, just wanted you to know I seemed to have had the same reaction to the drug.
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> > > And yes, the depression is ever present!
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> > > be well :)
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> > > namaste,
> > > lilith
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> > > > I just stopped the Tianeptine to see which, that or the Adderall had shortened my already too short fuse. I was getting argumentive and them teary at times. It was the Tianeptine for sure. I can't do that for 6 or 7 weeks waiting for an improvement.
> > > > I am doing well on the Adderall in many ways and I can laugh at times. But the depression is lurking.
> > > > Thinking about trying the Tianeptine at night. Gonna give it a bit of thought for a while. Need to get on with things besides figuring out my f*cking meds. Good luck to all.
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