Posted by Quintal on February 23, 2007, at 16:14:21
In reply to Re: Back from Exile: Welcome back Q! » Quintal, posted by liliths on February 23, 2007, at 7:49:36
Hi Lil,
I don't know a great deal about the nootropics myself to be honest. I found this that might be relevant to the poor blood flow in your hands though:
Piracetam is useful as a long term treatment for clotting, coagulation, and vasospastic disorders such as Raynaud's phenomenon [12]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piracetam>someone posted about using SAMe with tianeptine. I found some old SAMe I've had for years - may not even be effective anymore but one never knows. Anyway, they said it definitely seemed to help boost the tianeptine. I may try one instead of a wellbutrin in my afternoon meds today
How did it go? Maybe it's best to take it addition to the Wellbutrin given you don't want to go into withdrawal or anything?
>Of course, by now, I'm hoping for a diagnosis of some terminal illness LOL but I do think something besides my neck is causing this.
I suppose you can have both Raynaud's and cervical spondylosis? My dad has that and he has numbness in his fingers and burning pains.
>while on hydro and when not, that if anything, the hydro possible only helped me handle my exsting pain better
Wouldn't it be ironic if you were now prescribed the opiates for noiceptive pain? Do you think the PRN would accept that? Maybe go for it if you think they would.
I'm not sure about the origins of my own aches and pains. I'm a little young to have arthritis at 24, but it can happen I suppose. More likely it's simply due to my own pain threshold being lowered from being on the opiates? It's more a soreness in my muscles and achy feeling in my joints. I suppose some of the other meds you're taking might help dull the pain a little - like how most antidepressants are painkillers to a limited degree?
I'm sorry to hear about Daphne. I thought Hannah might have been a dog because you said she whined. My 11 year old whippet, Barry, died two years ago and Smudge withdrew into himself and seemed to develop an anxiety disorder. This was when I started work and he was left alone all day. He started to get diarrhea from panic attacks when he knew I was going out. He's a bit better now we have another dog, but still not the man he used to be bless him. It served as a model for the development of mental illness for me - a real-life study of how an anxiety disorder can be precipitated in the canine. I think the same thing happens in a similar way in humans. There are some links to pictures of Pop and Smudge over on the social thread.
>I sat in my apartment and realized I was finally ready to die. Then I looked over at my 2 girls who were in the bed with me and realized if I killed myself, I'd have to kill them too and since they weren't asking to die, I could never do that... which meant I couldn't kill myself either. The irony of it caused me to just laugh and I later wrote a poem about it. Suddenly I understood why women killed their children when committing suicide and even why some men killed their whole families before killing themselves. Now understanding and condoning are 2 different things. I couldn't kill my girls. I had no choice but to live, but the realization and understanding was a profound experience
Yes, we seem to have a similar thinking style. I take events like this and extrapolate them into scenarios in wider life. I think you're very probably right about that too. We do often look upon our pets as children and behave accordingly. It worries me about people who abuse animals, would they do that to their children too if only they couldn't talk and were completely at their mercy? It's bone chilling.
Q
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