Posted by willyee on June 29, 2006, at 2:16:12
In reply to Re: Medication woes...anyone tried Xyrem? » lymom3, posted by Jakeman on June 28, 2006, at 20:53:47
> I've had discussions with my neurologist/sleep doctor about xyrem and it's something I'm considering. My understanding is that the major drawback is having to take is twice a night. But I wake up more than twice a night anyway. He said that he has about 200 patients using it. Some recreational users taking too much (usually the homemade version) and combining with alcohol have given it some bad media attention. Based on my research some positves are that it increases deep sleep, increases growth hormone, and is non-toxic.
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> warm regards, Jake
Dont get me wrong GHB or pssh xyrem now,is a serious serious drug,one that should be a medication.However the hype over it had part to do with this....Xyrem was thought up long before ghb was illegal,in order to take a legal substance off the market there are legal steps that take some time.
UNLESS you provide to the court that its an IMMEDIATE danger to the public,this allows a direct removal.The date rape situation was terrable,but in no way is GHB responsable for more date rapes than acholol and roffies,or simply acholol alone.
The average person doesent even know what GHB is until u mention date rape drug,it was not a drug just anyone had.Yess many people abuse it,but the same goes for the tons of people who order xanax from overseas in enormous amounts,people will abuse drugs simple as that.
Like trypohan however,there were people who relied on GHB for sleep,for depression,for sexual dysfunction,and many other things.
What bothered me is the extremly harsh convictions that came down in a SNAP,FLASH,which had every day users being dragged out of there homes.
The suppliers,well they took the risk of handling such large amounts,but the everyday user who had no more than a sunny dee bottle were also snatched.
Now all this law did was take the avaialibty of a very pure and non toxic product,rentrewient etc,and left a wide spread of users resorting to ordering it in raw form gbl,which comes from companies labling it as all types of cleaners,who knows what purity it really is.
I know the drug in and out,almost all my remission periods invovled using this in mg increments,along with a AD,if u are using the correct dose for the correct reason,it is hard to become addicted to it.It is extremly dose dependeant on the reason of use.example anxiet/depression would require increments up to a gram tops depending on weight.
At the correct dose ghb gives a similiar effect as a benzo minus the depressive feeling.
In purity,it is also non toxic,and leaves the body as H2o.
It is off label,however i believe its off label use with still remain to sleep,the only data sheets out are in the form of very high doses of ghb which would absoutly be unsuitable for anxiety or depression,so if one was able to pull of getting it prescribed for such,id be in a absolute awe.......mainly because i dont think any doc would be able to provide dosage amounts as in comes pre dosed.
Well tooo bad,i think it would serve as a great option for mood disorders if done correctly,it has already been used in prescription form before un the trade name ALCOVER in italy,and there was no hysteria there,there medication was removed there at the request of the U.S at the time of the ban.
Just use logic,what sense does it make to present something as a total toxic hazard,then turn around tweak the name,raise the price 10 fold,and patent it.
People will reason this move as it being for specific illnessess.but a duck is a duck,its either bad for human consumption or its not.Least this is my view,i am hoping to get a call back from the docs who did my sleep study,there were problems that showed up,and i have yet to get my feed back info,but i GOT THE BILL !!!
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