Posted by willyee on June 27, 2006, at 23:05:15
In reply to Medication woes...anyone tried Xyrem?, posted by lymom3 on June 27, 2006, at 14:42:53
> I am ADHD, probably depressed, probably BPII. Docs guess at it as much as I do. Pdoc wants to take me off dexedrine for my ADHD. I will agree that it's not doing the job the way I want it to. Adderall was better for focus but made me mean. Haven't been sleeping so he wants to put me on Xyrem. Can't for the life of me understand where any of that makes sense.
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> Take away my stimulant which I need for focus and to stay on task. Give me some stupid drug that will knock me on my a** so I can be in a coma the next day without ever fixing the underlying sleep issue. For the most part I sleep well. Then there are some times when I don't seem to be able to sleep (mania maybe?).
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> I want to fix what's wrong, not just throw a sleeping pill at me and hope it works. Am I wrong or not thinking clearly? That answer to me just makes no sense. I really have trusted this doc implicitly and he has done wonders for my 18 year old ADHD'er but I think my perspective might be kind of shot when it comes to me.
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> Anyone have experience with Xyrem? Does it make any sense for me to try it?
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> LisaYess he has a reasoning for this.....xyrem....GHB
does two things,first at high does it increases gaba and quickly induces sleep,unlike Ambien and other sleep aids xyrem actualy puts you into the correct stage of rem sleep,the one in which is the recopertative sleep.Unlike Ambien or ur average sleep drug,xyrem when it wears off releases the dopamine it held back to make you sleepy,so you awaken to a stimulant effect of the dopamine release,as opposed to a sedating feeling of a sedative.
This is why its used mainly in Narcolepsy,it kills two birds with one stone,it puts them to sleep,and the dopamine rebound keeps them awake the next day so there is no need or reduced need to take the stimulants they do.
No drug is without its problems,some people find the rebound the next day too much,and feel extreme anxiety from it.
Xyrem in the form of GHB is dose dependant,at very minor doses it produces a sedative effect similiar to a benzo but with a slight mood lift.
In high doses in induces sleep.
Problem is the dose curve is instant,and its easy to make mistakes while learning your dose curve,which is why people act the fool on it sometime,it is definatly not a drug u just chug down,the dose needs to be precisly measured and kept track of.
As far as it being a date rape drug in nonsense,that was presented so the natural substance could by pass procedures it requires to make a natural substance illgal,ghb is non toxic,and no matter how they try to explain it,it simply would not be available as a script drug if it were a deadly drug.
Also with the date rape,well GHB has absolitly NO BUISNESS at all in a bar,no reasoning in the world could make sense of someone having it on them in a bar.
How do you blame a substance that a individual CHOOSES to use to commit a crime,a knife has no buisness in a school,when a kid is stabbed in school u dont ban knives.
GHB does need to be restricted,its not something anyone should be able to pick up at the local health shop,however if used correctly it holds enormous potential for depression,anxiety,insomnia among other things.
But because like a benzo its so potent,it is very easy to abuse it,even if it was not ones intention,and it can be for some very addicting.This is usualy the case with any succesful drug,the addiction potential and abuse.
Im personaly jumping hurdles to get this prescribed,i simply am habing trouble,i would love to switch places with u lol.
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