Posted by Donna Louise on June 24, 2006, at 5:06:01
In reply to Re: Opiates are NOT bad., posted by jerrympls on June 24, 2006, at 2:40:05
> > >Just because they are hard to get off of does >not mean they are not effective, constructive >drugs. Opiates, on the other hand , are clearly >destructive. SSRI med are very powerfull, and >need to be handled with more care then most >people think. But for most people, they give >them their lives back!
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> > For a little while I suppose. I have yet to meet "anybody" who will contend that their fixed dose of SSRI antidepressant is as effective as it was when it first worked. I have probably asked that question to >=50 people I have met over the years.
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> > The conscensious I repeatedly get from friends and family is that, sure it worked at first, but now I don't notice much at all. I basically just feel like a zombie.
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> > The number of people who have associated the word SSRI with zombie is quite large.
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> > Many polls rate effexor and paxil as harder to get off than prescription opiates used for pain.
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> > Linkadge
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> Hey Link!
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> So who's saying that opiates are "destructive?" HA! I'm proof they are no such thing. I've been on hydrocodone FOR DEPRESSION along with Lexapro and Adderall for over 2 years now and it's been the best combination for me. I've said many times before that opiates are no cure - but they CERTAINLY should have their place in treating TRD. I've not had any tolerance nor have I had any need to increase the dose of the hydrocodone. And yes - it's prescribe by my psychiatrist. I was put on it while seeing doctors at the University of Minnesota and am continuing it now - back in IL - going to school for my doctorate in pharmacy!
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> SSRIs produce unbearbale withdrawl as bad as if not equal to that of hard-core opiate use. I'm not saying that opiates like hydrocodone don't cause withdrawl - because they do - but just because SSRIs aren't "addictive substances" doesn't mean they are innocent of creating havoc in your brain.
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> No one should be discounting meds like opiates as destructive or ueless treatments for mood disorders. Many people tend to base their generalizations on media hype, bad medical care, uninformed doctors and severe unusual cases instead of FACT. We live in a world of sensationalism. It's because of these factors that meds like opiates and other compounds are shelved - and not given a chance to be tested, etc.
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> (Link - don't think that this was aimed at you - I just decided to attach my post to your reply - hope you're doing well my friend!)
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> JerryI have detoxed from alot of different drugs and by far and away the worst (next to caffeine) is a toss up between effexor and paxil.
donna
poster:Donna Louise
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