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Re: Statistical question on SSRIs - ADDENDUM

Posted by linkadge on May 23, 2006, at 17:30:33

In reply to Re: Statistical question on SSRIs - ADDENDUM » linkadge, posted by Larry Hoover on May 22, 2006, at 18:03:15

>I can give insulin to healthy volunteers and >kill them with it, whereas the target >population finds the "drug" to be a wondrous >benefit. Perhaps what you are describing is the >inappropriate use of the drugs, all the while. >Perhaps, if these things happen, you're proving >the person didn't need the drug.

Anyone, for whom the drugs are not fixing a genuine chemical imbalence, does not need the drugs. Thats a lot of people who are probably responding similarly to the "healthy vaulenteers".

In a fantasy world, it all fits together. You start with the assumption that the drugs are actually fixing something that is wrong with the depressed brain. Under those pretenses a whole host of false conclusions can be reached. Ie. the conclusion that the depressed brain is going to mystically respond completely differently to the drugs than healthy vaulenteers, which may or may not be true. You can predict almost every other side effect of SSRI's with healthy vaulenteers, from insomnia, to sexual side effects. Why does the line stop at suicidial ideation ?


We are wrong in thinking that one size fits all depressed people. Depression is a manifestation of perhaps dozens of different biochemical peterbations.

>Unfortunately, there is no way to know. Not >that I can think of, and I've spent a lot of >time trying to figure a way. I'd love to prove >your hypothesis, one way or the other. I really >would. SSRIs nearly killed me. Serzone was >perhaps one day from taking out my liver. I >really am on your side, link. I only wish we >could answer the question. If the evidence was >available, I would be thrilled to post it here.

I agree its very up in the air. Heck, you might even find some doctor who would convince you that luvox is safe for you to try again, and that your reaction was a freak outburst of your clinical condition. But you know what you know. I'm certainly not asking you to explain to me why you decide not to take luvox again. You know whats best for you, and you don't really need the science to support you.

>So long as there is an alternative plausible >explanation, then you have not proven your >case. I believe I gave a very plausible >alternative theory.

But thats what I don't understand. I am not trying to proove anything. An evolutionist, for instance, can argue his points, but he cannot proove anything. If you are looking to be convinced, your talking to the wrong person.

Linkadge



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