Posted by yxibow on May 13, 2006, at 0:10:48
In reply to Re: MAOIs » yxibow, posted by Donna Louise on May 12, 2006, at 6:28:27
> > > >I'm talking about people with severe sinusits
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> > > OK, but how is this relevent? The vast majority of patients who are considering taking an MAOI do not suffer from sinusitis.
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> > Is there a study ? One will never know. There are few other things that will control it other than saline or steroidal use which is always an iffy thing even if nasal steroids are relatively harmless, they can still cause HPA axis issues and that is nothing good to add to severe depression.
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> > > >ECT is a controlled seizure.
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> > > That would be a euphemism. Potent muscle relaxants are necessary during ECT to prevent violent convulsions. People used to break their back during ECT, the convulsions were so severe. I think this gives you a good idea of what sort of seizure is being induced.
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> > No, its not a euphemism, its exactly what it is according to my doctor who has I think two decades more experience than myself as an MD. I didn't say it was something to take lightly... I wouldnt go there any more than I would an MAOI.
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> > > >Actually the FAQ on the link with the ECT machine you showed points out the positive benefits that I aforementioned in the other reply and the rarity of severe complications.
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> > > Well of course! Manufacturers of ECT machines will inevitably downplay the risks!
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> > So why post it, I was lost ?
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> > > >And suppose you've been hit by a car? I'd highly suggest a medical wristband that says MAOI.
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> > > Indeed, such wristbands can be obtained easily, and cheaply. Only a minority of drugs used in emergency medicine need to be avoided - Demerol being the obvious example. Epinephrine is not contra-indicated.
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> > Good, we agree here.
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> > > Let's compare: mild cough versus severe untreated mental illness. Which is most likely to lead to people needing to take time off work? Given dextromethorphan's minimal effectiveness, it is not likely to help someone go to work. Simple linctus would do just as well.
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> > Mm... ask the millions of Americans who use it daily. I agree, its not a great drug. Its not terribly powerful. In fact its quite weak, deliberately so, almost punitively, to discourage abuse which does still exist (yuck).
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> > > >Hmm... I seem to remember you using OTC codeine :)
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> > > Yep, I took it because it makes me feel better, not to treat a cough.
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> > Hmm.. I won't go there because that's character assasination.
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> I am just now reading this thread as I have been busy with the patch threads and Life for a change. I have been wanting to get an ID bracelet, where is one obtained cheaply and easily? And I just have to comment, about the DXM and how it can get one through work with a cough or whatever it treats, that does presuppose one would be mentally well enough to go to work in the first place. I would have to cross the snotty nose bridge when I got there. Perhaps I should stay home from work anyway so as not to spread germs, assuming I would employable in the first place that is.
Oh I agree -- but the US work force doesn't like to give out very many sick days. Hence everyone in the office gets the cold or the flu. I agree in an ideal world one should stay home and isolate their sickness. Not that it is terribly effective, but I believe it is proper in Japanese cultures to wear a mask if one is ill. I'm not sure. I've seen it before though.ID bracelets can be ordered online, I'm not familiar with them since I just print my own ID card in my wallet, I dont have a more pressing need which I would agree with those on high dose MAOIs. So I would search around with Froogle for a site -- maybe someone can comment on it. And of course be sure the place looks legit and not overcharging.
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