Posted by barbaracat on September 29, 2005, at 11:40:56
In reply to Re: Adderall, tolerance, manic treatment » Sarah T., posted by KaraS on September 29, 2005, at 5:18:09
In addition to how dangerous conjugated horse urine estrogens are, the thing that bothers me the most is the sickeningly inhumane treatment of the horses. They just keep those horses cooped up and pregnant, take their foals away immediately and then destroy them after a few years of heavy labor (literally). It breaks my heart and it makes me furious that it doesn't seem to bother the drug manufacturer's that synthetic HRT is dangerous because our bodies have to metablolize 4 extra very potent estrogens (horses have 7, we have 3).
Synthetic progestins are no better, but for different reasons. Progesterone is broken down heavily in the liver and so you need much more when taken orally. All that extra gets metabolized into compounds that make you fat, depressed and bloated. Transdermal bioidentical creams (or sublingual drops) are really the way to go.
I don't know if I mentioned this, but you can find out your own hormone profile by saliva testing which is the method most naturopaths use. You don't need a Dr. to order them. Two labs that do good work are at www.heranswer.com/hormonetest.asp and www.salivatest.com.
Once you get a look at where you're at hormonally, it's usually a real eye-opener and things start making sense. You'll need a alternatively oriented Dr. to order the bioidentical creams from a compounding pharmacy. If you can't find one, www.womensinternational.com is a great compounding pharmacy that can give you names of health practitioners in your area who order their products. But as a last resort, there are creams available on the heranswer.com site that aren't as customized or potent as the pharmacy product, but better than nothing. You can't get a very strong over the counter estrogen but the progesterone is potent enough and most women end up just needing more progesterone anyway cause it converts to estrogens. OK, enough of Gal's Biology 101, - Barbara
> That was an excellent post from BarbaraCat. I just wanted to add that I have several friends and a sister who are taking bioidentical hormones and doing very well on them. The latest treatment that is so popular, particularly for menopausal women, is to have your hormone levels tested. Then the doctor gives you a prescription that you can take to a compounding pharmacy. They make up a cream (to be used topically) with bioidentical hormones that is specifically tailored to the amounts you require.
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> What makes me so sick about Prempro is that the knowledge has been there all along to use bioidentical hormones. The synthetic progestins and the horse urine estrogen were used because the bioidenticals were not patentable. Countless women have gotten all kinds of health problems because the drug companies couldn't make big bucks from the real thing.
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