Posted by greenhornet on April 9, 2005, at 13:20:36
In reply to Re: Flip-Codeine » greenhornet, posted by Larry Hoover on April 9, 2005, at 10:31:37
> Thanks for weighing in, greenhornet.
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> If I may be so bold, I would draw the following theme and conclusion from your post....
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> Medication is not the only answer to depressive symptoms, if cognitive coping strategies are actually promoting depression. Therefore, changing cognitive processes can lead to remission of depression, and relieve the need for medication.
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> I'm with you on that, but....
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> Cognitive therapy can be reduced to a very simple concept, IMHO.....
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> Same input, different output.
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> What happened, happened. Life is life. What you feel about it is largely a matter of choice, habit, training, internalization, experience, attitude, belief, expectations, faith, and similar.
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> So, there's a lot to work with in that list (and I certainly missed some). That's what cognitive therapy is for. To work with the list of interpretive cognitions we all employ.
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> That said, it may also be an inappropriate expectation to assume that modification of cognition alone can lead to remission. Medication has a place in recovery (and maintenance) for some people. You really can't generalize about that.
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> Lar
Larry,
Thank you for putting it so well. Relating my experience/opinion has often only caused totally negative and/or defensive reactions. I appreciate others positive input and correction.
By the way, I should have mentioned this to FST too, but I cannot tolerate many opiates at all(morphine, codine, Dilaudid, Talwin) -- I become violently ill. So in some ways I suppose I envy those of you for whom these medications work for physical pain.
GH
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