Posted by darkhorse on January 14, 2005, at 5:39:40
In reply to Re: What is an antidepressant?Any input please? » darkhorse, posted by ed_uk on January 13, 2005, at 10:13:04
> Hello!
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> SSRIs tend to reduce motivation and numb emotions.I can not agree more.In fact,if I may add : their therapeutic action is based on their potent effect at making people(any person for that matter) indifferent to everything.So their action would be to let you not care about doing any thing so in this case it works to kill OCD cycles..and since one does not care if he dies or live,anxious or not...etc,etc.One ends up does not care about anything!!!
Looking back,I was locked inside this zombie or trance living...> I suppose that noradrenaline reuptake inhibitors like desipramine possess many of the properties you suggested. Sadly, for many people they just aren't adequately effecive.
Yes,you are correct.
> I think many people probably don't realise how many neurotransmitters there actually are. I think some doctors are still stuck on the idea that everything is to do with serotonin- the neurotransmitter of the 90s. Their minds are still stuck on how good it is to be 'selective for serotonin'- 'selctive' is a word which has been a very effective marketing strategy. Today, big pharma is promoting the benefits of drugs which are not selective for serotonin. Remember imipramine!!
So, the more things change,the more things stay the same.
> It annoys me when people talk about the brain as if it was like a pot of soup! Oh, if only I could add a bit more serotonin (salt) and a touch of dopamine (pepper) everything would be ok! As you well know, it is not that simple!Yes ,you expressed what I wanted to say so well.If I may add that this belief is so humilating to our great massive and complex organ that we call brain.
On their own, drugs are never enough to make a person happy in the long term.
Well said.We are getting used that everything must be totally fixed with the magic bullet.There is more to life than pills,and we should never underesimate how humanbeings are a suvival species and that we developed through the ages the most powerful weapon;the brain.
> I don't think that drug companies invent disorders, but they do spend a lot of time 'educating' doctors and the public about problems which can now be treated with medication. You are right btw, drug companies are all about money. They are businessess, profit is their aim. They do not exist for the benefit of people with mental health problems!If I may add that drug companies are trying all the time to take a normal human reaction,and label it into a "disorder" and magnify it until it is a "chemical imbalance" and "mental illness".e.g. social anxiety "disorder",was never heared of before,and now it is a very common mental illness.
Yes I believe that social anxiety do exist but it is not a disorder that needs to be fixed with more serotonin or GABA,and that would be it!!
people who feel very uncomfortable in social situations(me included),may need a drink or a benzo occasionally to smmoth things a bit or be more educated and trained how to deal with situations,but to be put indiffenetly on powerful medications such as Paxil in the belief of this chemical imbalance with few if any positive results,and if not,more and more medications....ughhh.
Sorry for the long chat,and sorry for my bad english and spelling mistakes!
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> Best Regards,D H .
> Ed.
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