Posted by thug life on September 30, 2004, at 8:59:00
In reply to Amphetamine Psychosis: no shame in acceptance » geno, posted by utopizen on September 29, 2004, at 18:19:27
> If you want to know what people are honestly thinking after you wrote this-- and I say not to criticize your meds or you in any way but am saying this out of concern for your well-being-- your dose may be a wee bit high.
First,I would like to say,Utopizen,This is very unkind treatment you gave Geno.You are suggesting "what people are honestly thinking"....You are creating a subjective opinion because I dont think what you said.
> If you want to know what others are thinking of your writing, (or at least me) it's this: you are less than coherent, to say things mildly. You are writing excessively, and presume may even be talking a bit around your friends, too.
How is he less than coherent? To add in "to say things midly" is very much an insult to me.How was his writing excessive? Whats wrong with expressing your feelings on a board for support? Honestly how long did it take you to read it? If you thought it was too long,why did you keep reading? Also to me he was very coherent knowing about medication and what actions they preform,instead of being a victim of a prescription writer,he is taking the time to do research and pour his heart on this board.Why cant he have a long post? Maybe thats who he is as a person.Its like when a teacher says"any questions" then when you start asking they get annoyed and try to cut you off.
> Amphetamine psychosis is a very serious problem, and it doesn't seem immediately likely to you that you have it. Only qualified medical experts may determine such a thing. I went in the hospital over it myself, and I was just like you-- wrote excessively about meds, talked to my doc a lot about my meds- etc. But I didn't have "psychotic episodes" or hallucinations per say. But I later realize now, after visiting a mental hospital, that I did in fact have amphetamine psychosis.>
We have to take into consideration other peoples feelings with our words.By suggesting Psychosis to someone with anxiety isnt the best thing to do.I wish you wouldve chosen your wording more carefully.
> First, my advice is to do what I did, and get off the stuff you're on and go on something tamer like Ritalin and lower that to half of whatever you have convinced yourself is "effective" and take that.>He said he was on Ritalin and didn't do any good....so why would you put him on that? How has he convinced himself of anything? You are making assumptions and possibly might be making his situation worse.You could of gotten your point across by using less assumptions,took into consideration his anxiety,criticizing him for long posts when he has social anxiety....possibly now making him hold his thoughts and emotions back on a board which very unique and helpful.
> Don't worry. If a stimulant doesn't "work" or is "effective" for you in your mind, just accept that you're not Superman and be content with the fact that ADHD doesn't permit you to live as a super hero.>
What does this even mean? If something you feel isnt working...why take it? There are tons of stories on Toxic Psychiatry because instead of treating the patient,they treat you from a book and see you for 1 hour then forget about you.Meanwhile people like Geno have their own lives to live and they know themselves so...why take somethimg which you feel no improvement on? Why should you put limitations on one's ability to recover?> I accept this, although it took me a while to. We're smart, I know, so we all think we need to be super heros despite our severe attention deficits, but the reality is that WILL drive us insane.>
Once again you are comparing your situation to Geno,when in fact you might not have nothing in common what so ever.We are all different....if we have add or adhd,its wrong to assume we all act the same or feel the same.
> Second, call your doc so he can arrange to admit you to the nearest psychiatric hospital he have privileges to send you. I did it. There's no shame in this. It in the long run, it'll help you. Put aside your immediate responsibilities. You owe yourself the relief.>
Why assume he needs to be admitted? On what grounds? His post was long?
> I only say this because I want to be honest, and not pretend as though your post doesn't concern me about your well being (like I'm sure many posters would, and I'm sure these posters will "correct me" and such, but I wish someone told me the honest truth of what was on their minds all along before it was too late).>
How are you being honest when you are being subjective in this matter.Just because you might have had experiences in your life doesnt mean they are the same as his.Knowing of his anxiety problems and his wearing his heart on his sleeve...I wish you wouldve worded things differently and thought about his feelings and problems.I understand honesty but would you go to someone overweight and say"You are very obese,fat etc." That is going to do more damage than good....
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