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Re: Larry, Zinc/Selenium/Vitamin C questions

Posted by Caleb462 on June 1, 2003, at 18:23:42

In reply to Re: Larry, Zinc/Selenium/Vitamin C questions » Caleb462, posted by Larry Hoover on June 1, 2003, at 9:17:28

> > Hey Larry.
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> Hey.
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> >Okay, well tonight I went out and bought some selenium and zinc. I also had my heart set on some niacinamide, but couldn't find it - I'll look some more tommorow.
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> I've occasionally seen it marketed as no-flush niacin, rather than being labelled as niacinamide. No-flush niacin might also be inositol nicotinate, so you have to check the ingredients.

Yeah, well actually the only niacin I could find was inositol nicotinate (although I thought it was hex-something or other??), labeled as "no-flush niacin".

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> > The zinc is zinc gluconate, and the selenium is selenium yeast. Are these adequate forms of the minerals?
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> Yes, they're what I use.
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> Check the label on your multi. Does it say selenium as selenate or selenite? If so, the selenium in the multi is less useful to you, meaning the effective amount of selenium is much less than the total amount they're claiming.

Aha... I see.. ok, thanks.


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> > Finally... about vitamin C. I get around 90 mg in my daily multivitamin (can't remember the exact number), 500 mg in my daily B-complex + C, and now, I'll be getting an extra 100 mg that is included in the selenium tabs. Not to mention that I drink a lot of orange juice, and probably get another 50-200 mg of Vit. C from that, depending on the day. Is this too much C? Can it do any harm?
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> No, not too much. Probably still too little. Here, there is no concern about upper intake levels. Vitamin C has no identified toxic effects, except for diarrhea if you take too much all at one time (without letting your body adapt). If you have been taking large amounts for a period of time, sudden reduction of that dose can lead to symptoms of scurvy, because you become dependent on it. There is a balancing act, here.
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> I'd say a minimum target ought to be 2 grams per day, for all psychiatric populations. Mental illness is stressful, and stress whacks vitamin C, hard. Vitamin C helps protect against stress, so you get a vicious circle if you get behind on your C. I think you get the best effect if you shoot for 2 grams a day, and have brief periods of higher intake. Your body won't become dependent on the higher dose, yet you still get the enhancements.
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I see... okay. Well... I have no idea if this is true or not, but I have read/heard that cigarette smoke destroys Vitamin C. I'm a smoker (I'd like to stop, but adding nicotine withdrawl into my already fragile mental/emotional state is not an option right now), does this mean I may need even MORE vitamin C than 2 grams?


And one more thing... since I've begun taking supplements, well... my B-complex in particular, my urine has become brightly colored. Obviously this reflects urinary loss of vitamins. Is this a natural and unavoidable thing? I always take them with a meal, so as to assure maximal absorption, but is there something else I need to be doing?

Thanks again.


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