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Re: Peter Breggin is a legend!...on some points » ace

Posted by Snoozy on May 5, 2003, at 8:56:22

In reply to Peter Breggin is a legend!...on some points, posted by ace on May 4, 2003, at 22:02:12

Hi ace -
> Last night, after having a bath and eating a toasted Xanax sandwich (!), I sat back at had a look at old Pete Breggins' book.

Did you get the recipe from the Elvis cookbook? lol

I read a couple of Breggin's books some years ago, after having a few pdocs that could go in his books.

It's interesting that you bring him up - I haven't thought about him in a while. When I was reading his books, I had just gone through horrible, horrible SSRI withdrawls. It was a real relief to read about how that does happen - my pdocs treated it as if I was just an overcomplaining nut.

I am filled with equal parts despair and rage when I read about all of the people here that are *STILL* going through nasty SSRI withdrawl. I took Paxil and Effexor (not at the same time) when they were first available in the US - 1994 and 1995 I believe. The Effexor withdrawl was one of the worst things I have ever been through. I knew that once a drug is on the market here, the government doesn't really keep tabs on it, it's up to the drug maker to report about them. (Ha!) I did know about the FDA Medwatch system - docs are supposed to fill these out and send them in when a patient dies/has serious adverse effects from a drug. I got a copy of these forms, filled out my part, took it to my pdoc to have him fill it out and send it in. (I'm pretty sure he didn't send it in) Silly me, I thought here's this new drug and it causes this horrible withdrawl - and they need to know about it!! (Which of course they probably already did). But I didn't want a single person in the future to go through what I did withdrawing from the Effexor.

So here we are 7-8 years later and it seems every day there's at least one person here going through withdrawl - withdrawls that don't have to be hellish if they're monitored properly. I just feel like I'm beating my head against a brick wall. Why oh why is this still happening? There is no excuse, no excuse at all for this to still be going on.

So now that I've brightened your day, I'll just say that reading Breggin's books can be very helpful.

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> This guy is great - exposing all those naughty shrinks who have done naughty things. Shrinks must hate this dude!
> But seriously, it IS indeed good for there to be people like him: he does show many pitfalls in psycotherapy and psychiatry.
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> Some behaviour, of some shrinks he talks of, is unbelievalble, and I actually think the guy is a nice kid.
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> The great thing about the guy is that he makes clear the power of an individual - he enequicocally states that you should nOT let any other human have power over you. He believes in the human potential, and sees psychiatry in many ways as thwarting this potential- which is true, IMO.
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> That being said, most of his views about drugs I take with a grain of sand (except SSRI w/drawal probs). But even there there is some gold amongst all the sand. Not much but.
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> I agree with Jeffrey Masson - THERE IS SOMETHING FUNDAMENTALL WRONG ABOUT PSYCHOTHERAPY BEING A PROFESSION. It is vile to pay money to another to tell you how to live. We should get help, support from friends and family about those normal ups and downs of life. If we have chemical imbalances we should see a doctor who matches our symptamotology to a medication, prescribes and that's it. My GP is exactly like this.
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> But, I thoroughly believe in Psychopharmacolgy.
> Just not psychotherapy or psychiatry where there is psychotherapy going on.
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> All the above is only my opinion. If you disagree tell me I smell, need to wash my hair, and have lovely teeth but need to be cleaned more often!
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> Sorry for the silliness- this Nardil w/drawal is making me even more silly ! Heaven Forbid!!!!
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> Ace.
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