Posted by johnj on April 6, 2003, at 19:50:15
In reply to Re: Magnesium--HELP anyone » johnj, posted by Ron Hill on April 4, 2003, at 13:11:09
Hi Ron,
It has been a less than stellar few days, see my post to Beardy.> I felt so good on Monday so I lifted weights on at 6 pm and had a bad night sleeping.
<Please give me a little more detail regarding your sleep problems. Do you have trouble falling asleep when you first lie down or do you fall asleep initially but then wake up in the middle of the night and can't go back to sleep?>
This time I had trouble falling asleep and then woke up about an hour earlier. I rarely wake up in the middle of the night. If I do it is around 4 and then I half sleep waiting for the alarm.
<When you're having trouble getting to sleep, is your body tired but your brain is going full steam? In other words, do you lay in bed ruminating thoughts over-and-over in you mind?>
If don't fall asleep soon, I will start to ruminate. Generally, I do that much more when I wake up early. I find trouble spots in life or work and then play them over. After I started Mg when I woke up in the morning, for ex, Saturday I would stay in bed for awhile, but not ruminate in a bad sense just lay there and enjoy the time in bed.
<When you finally get to sleep, do you sleep soundly or do you merely doze near the edge of consciousness?>
This happens in the morning if I wake up early, but I have had it sometimes at night, but rarely. I did have it last year where it seemd like I was like what you described on several nights and I was beat in the morning.
<For what its worth, increases in the intensity of my exercise program causes sleep problems for me until I become accustom to the higher level of activity. In my case, I have always attributed this to an increase in endorphins which (according to my theory) causes some hypomania. But this is just my layman's explanation that I use to make sense out of my world. It comes in handy while I am laying sleepless in my bed becoming more angry by the minute ruminating about the fact that my inability to get to sleep is going to make me very unproductive and uncomfortable the next day.>
Man, the next day fear is horrible. I have felt like I was not going to make it through the day or die or something. Being unproductive, especially, with the friction in my section , makes for a bad day.
<If I had not been lifting weights on a regular basis, and then lifted at 6 pm, it’s almost guaranteed that I would have a difficult time getting to sleep. I have to ramp up my exercise program gradually and consistently over an extended period of time.>
I am almost thinking of going down in the morning and just doing one excercise, maybe two sets, and see what happens.
<John, I know your situation is more complicated than the one I've described, but it may have some applicability. I have a hunch that ATP is involved either directly or indirectly in your exercise related problems.>
I had problems in that past, but I could go 3 months before hitting a wall. Now, it seems like I can't do anything without upsetting the balance. In fact, my most recent fall, about 1.5 years ago, was after I ramped up my jogging program to where I was going 13 to 15 minutes straight. This was also 2 months after I had pnuemonia. My doc doesn't seem too concerned, but I told him excercise is how I help myself and it is frustrating not being able to do that. I just wish I knew how or where to do to figure what is happening because it is definately biologically based. Somehting just isn't shutting off letting my body relax and repair. Too bad the CRH drugs are far off.....
Thanks for your help Ron, I appreciate it.-- Ron
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