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Cybercafe / Judy drugcaused movement disorders

Posted by action_jackson on September 2, 2002, at 1:21:37

In reply to APS - EPS » action_jackson, posted by cybercafe on September 1, 2002, at 17:33:12

Cybercafe -

Amisulpride is in class same as "metaclopramide" (anti-nausea dopamine blocker in USA) and "sulpiride" overseas. All cause complex movements - yet are considered "very safe" to the point amisulpride may make it into USA soon.

You are right I think - zyprexa considred safer than the above a/p's - and only clozapine not implicated in tardive movement disorders.

I don't know how "safe" any of these drugs are. My understanding is zyprexa studies are mainly switchovers from patients on old DA blockers - and thus comparatively very safe. Also my understanding still a certain % get tardive movement disorder when starting out with zyprexa as first a/p.

I have resumed Klonopin (I lowered to see extent of movements - they seem now controlled again - and I hope I will not have much problems in future. My main concern was if anything was progressive - which sounds like probably not if I stay off all DA blockers (that part will be cake).

Unless I have some weird progressive underlying disease ECT is not in my future - but rather a return to treating my SP. I think while taking an AP, is virtually impossible to evaluate extent or even if a movement disorder is present. Zyrpexa is "good for Tardive movements - read good to MASK them".

Is Zyprexa safe - probably a lot safer than most other DA blockers. I'm no Dr. Free country. Just wanted to share my story and opinions and good luck to all.


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Judy - Thanks for sharing your story, and sorry at the same time that it ever had to happen. I'm glad that the anticholinergic helps your case. My case seems good for Klonopin - a med I took already anyway so is kind of ideal for me.

Good luck all!!!

Chad
http://www.socialfear.com/

> hmmm... i hear zyprexa is supposed to have the lowest incidence of EPS/TD, with the possible exception of clozapine no?
>
> i don't know how high the rate is with amisulpide but i don't have a good reason to think it's lower than zyprexa at this point in time.......
> i also noticed that the links you gave were mainly for risperdal, and yeah, i know risperdal is pretty much up there with haldol in terms of badness ....
>
> .... so zyprexa is an awesome drug for me, in terms of primary effect, ... i am hoping these side effects (pin pricks + dystonia?) are only temporary, .... if my doc says they don't go away, i'd like to go off it..... don't know what i'd try to decrease activity in neocortex .... perhaps just switch parnate to moclobemide ? ... i really wish i could get my hands on a selective 5ht2 antagonist ....
>
> do you have a reason to believe zyprexa is as bad as risperdal or amisulpide actionjackson?
>
> anyways... hope you can get rid of your neurological problems.... with a stimulant? ... or ECT? ...


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