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Re: Bipolar, chocolate thyroid » BarbaraCat

Posted by MomO3 on August 2, 2002, at 23:38:02

In reply to Re: Bipolar mixed states and chocolate  » MomO3, posted by BarbaraCat on July 13, 2002, at 15:27:13

Hi Barbara,

I took your advice and followed up on the thyroid thing a little further... I had my lab results sent to a Dr of Internal Medicine - at the recommendation of my pdoc. He looked everything over and re-iterated that the thyroid #s were in line... I think it was a 1.07 so the thyroid itself is functioning normally. He has referred me to an endocrinologist, who I am sure will want to stick me in the neck with big needles again... unfortunately the clinic had already destroyed my records from my biopsy in 1990 so we did not have anything to compare the ultrasound to.. oh well.. live and learn I guess.

Anyway, since the thyroid levels are normal, what are you getting at? Do you think it could be a T4/T3 thing? My friend just came up with a "Wilson's Thyroid Syndrome" that specifically addresses T4/T3 - but the "thyroid people" are dennouncing this 'syndrome' as a hodgepodge of non-specific symptoms. I don't know what to make of it, but maybe a little Selenium in my diet might help...

How are you doing?

Thanks!!
Mom

Oh and BTW, I am doing better not feeling so caged or depressed, after a few angry weeks on hell-butrin, I am taking lots of naps on effexor - but at least I am not cracking my teeth from all of the clinching that the wellbutrin brought on. But since my alcohol consumption seems to be increasing with increased Effexor dosage, I suspect some hypomania. The hypomanic is a nice change of pace, the head in the toilet at 3am on a Tuesday from too much wine is not. Tell me there is some middle ground!


> Hi Mom,
> Actually, it's Effexor that has a relationship with PEA, phenylethylalanine. Same chemical that's in chocolate (I hope you like dark chocolate. Milk chocolate is just a tease, as far as I'm concerned). PEA is also the chemical isolated from spinal fluid of people in the bouncing off the walls stages of 'in-love'. It's a very interesting substance, related to amphetamines.
>
> Unfortunately, Effexor didn't work so well for me and the coming off was ghastly. I used to crave chocolate about 12 hours before I started my period. It would have to be dark chocolate. I once jumped out of bed, pulled my jeans on over my PJs and drove 20 miles down twisty mountain roads in the middle of a stormy February night to get a hot fudge sundae. I remember thinking 'I have a major chocolate jones, yessirree'. Since I'm over that stage of life, these chocolate crazies no longer bother me. If someone could synthesize the sweet craziness of falling in love, ah, now there would be a drug! Don't think anyone's done that yet, and Effexor sure ain't it.
>
> I know very well the caged animal feeling. I've gotten that while starting up on too high a dose of Zoloft, Prozac, SSRI du-jour, as well as being a symptom of a Bipolar episode. It's become obvious to me that I need a benzo, or some kind of smoother. I'm almost convinced that I'm BP-II with mixed states. The mixed states are what causes the suicidal caged animal depressions for me - mania bleeding into depression, a deadly brew.
>
> BTW, I commend you on raising 3 kids while going through the difficulties of a mood disorder. Don't think I could do it, and admire you tremendously. If I can give some advice based on experience, try to keep a steady state with your meds and not run out and just stop and then start up with a new one. I've done that many times and it's havoc on the poor brain. Also, if you have access to a naturopath it would be a good idea to see one. They have a deeper take on the thyroid issue and if your's is even a little out of whack it can be the missing link to everything. Your blood tests do NOT tell the whole picture - trust me on this - and the fact that you have a nodule is significant. - BCat


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