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Re: Experimenting with recreational drugs ...

Posted by Jackd on July 30, 2002, at 23:19:26

In reply to Re: Experimenting with recreational drugs ... » Jackd, posted by fairnymph on July 29, 2002, at 20:37:40

Hmmm... though your post deems little dignity for response, I will attempt to educate you.


> You are wrong. Opiates are more addictive that amphetamines. Stimulants can be very psychologically addictive but their physical addiction potential is low. Cocaine/crack is not at all physically addictive, btw.

When I say addictive, I mean addictive psychologically/physiologically. They kind of go hand in hand. And btw, I didn't just pull that out of my ass, empiracally that really is the list of most addictive substance for humans.


> Alcohol is more physically addictive than meth and kills more people....do you ever drink?

Physically, yes, but all things considered it is not nearly as addictive. And I drink quite heavily and am able to stop for months. Meth heads who I have been close friends with keep doing it compulsively until, as I said, they die or go to jail. Again, I have witnessed it, I'm not telling stupid urban legends or myths like "I knew a guy who knew a guy.... etc". If their is no trust between us than why even bother debating?

> I'm not the shy nervous type so I can't comment. Regardless, I doubt it's possible to generalize so broadly...

Isn't that how people relate and live their lives? Generalizing? If I really need to explain that you need to open your eyes. Oh yeh, and I was being sarcastic...


> You are wildly exaggerating. MDMA may compare a bit to a first kiss...but that's where the drug/real life comparisons stop. Yeah, meth is great fucking high...but it's not the best thing ever. And if you think it is, you haven't experienced life fully.

It's all relative, and besides, I was exaggering to make a point.

> A WEEK? For chrissake, take your goddamn propaganda elsewhere. You remind me of the DARE cop who told me that he saw a some guy on 'angel dust' (ie pcp) "take his eyeballs out with his own hands". Scare tactics are lame.

Propaganda? You sound like the over-typified cynical rebellious narrowminded youths so humorously stereotyped in films. Again, this was actual first hand experience, take it or leave it. I mean, honestly, if that had been your experience, wouldn't you want to share it with other would-be meth users as incredulous as it would sound?

> This part at least is true. You can't be on meth all the time and nor should you be...you need to know how to deal with life in other ways.


I sense bias and hostility throughout your reply, whereas I was simply sharing information and words of caution as a benevolent more experience individual. I have dabbled with all sorts of drugs, from the tame to the mind blowing, and seen both worlds, where as you obviously seem stuck or inclined to lean in just one.

All I have to say is, have you honestly ever met a casual meth user? Do you know what drug is sweeping small towns in the country leaving ashes of murder, theft and voilence? Don't believe me? Read some statistics. Do some homework before naively huffing and puffing with your infantile assumptions and misconceptions.

> Guess what, not EVERYONE who does drugs goes to jail or dies or develops parkinsons...in fact most people don't! So stop spewing out this kind of nonsense..

I didn't say everyone, I was making a point. Do you know how to properly try to persuade or write persuasively? I don't mean misleading. From my personal experiences, my friends' experiences and friends of friends' experiences, and news articles and stories and statistics, I have come to these conclusions. What do you know? Really. You think I'm going to come out here to scare people? Have you ever been to NA meetings in San Diego, LA, small towns in AZ or TN? You are so naive.

You haven't even experienced enough to make anything close to an opinion, so why object mine? That's just plain ignorance, and it's almost laughable if it wasn't so dispicable.

> This advice is alright...though I still despise ritalin. I don't think he is a 'pussy' though for being shy.

Hahahahaha. When did I ask you if you liked ritalin...? Are you somehow twisting this thread into relating to you or directed toward you somehow? Does the universe revolve around you?

I NEVER said he was a pussy for being shy. Jumping to conclusions and putting words in my mouth again. I simply said "Don't be a pussy and take the easy way out". How you would interpret that as you did is beyond me and speaks volumes about your intellect and emotional intelligence.

Stick to watching MTV and vehemently hating government restrictions without knowing why. Or better yet, read some books, meet some more people, and figure out that there's more out there than your little world.


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