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Re: JohnX - Can you explain?

Posted by JohnX2 on June 21, 2002, at 0:12:00

In reply to Re: JohnX - Can you explain?, posted by Geezer on June 20, 2002, at 13:49:09

> > JohnX,
> >
> > I don't understand this notion that if you are bi-polar the chances are that ADs won't work for you. AD's used to work great for me, no problems. Now they don't. Does this mean that at one time I was unipolar but I've now mutated into a bipolar.
> >
> > Denise
>
> Hi Denise,
>
> I think John X has given you the best answer to the Unipolar-Bipolar-AD question you will find at this point in time. I was treated for Unipolar for many years, off and on ADs with little success. Got on Prozac in 1998 and had the best year of my life, until it "pooped out". Rediagnosed Bipolar II in 2000, have been all thru the "mood stabilizers" and currently trying various "cocktails". It's all a roll of the dice - keep trying. I really like the rain and wet sidewalk comparison.
>
> Geezer

The sidewalk comparison is an old logic deduction
error know as Modus Ponen,Modus Tollen (Latin?).

Basically:

if A implies B (Modus Ponen)
then it is false to assume B implies A (Modus Tollen)


In regards to the mood stabilizers, etc. My feeling is that
if you don't have clearcut bipolar symptoms like cycling, then
the mood stabilizers are a crapshoot.

At this point I'm really not big into the whole label thing.
I think the brain is way to complicated to boil it down to a
few labels.

My thing with a series of unresponsive AD trials (and say
you've tried the different classes), I see value in trying to
augment with stabilizers even if you don't have clear cut
ye 'ld bipolar symptoms. Basically I'm thinking these medicine
really just jolt your brain using educated guesses as to where
to do the jolting. If you administer an AED then this changes
the "picture of the brain" what have you that the antidepressants
have to look at before they start jolting. Who knows if this would
shake things up to get a response (irrespective of the damn labels)?

Take Care,
John


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