Posted by Ron Hill on March 8, 2002, at 13:20:55
In reply to Re: hyland's sleeping aid, posted by JohnX2 on March 8, 2002, at 5:31:46
John,
Thank you for the info. Currently I'm sleeping great, but I plan to buy some of the "voodoo sleep aid" to keep in my headboard for use if needed. In the past, I used about 1 mg of sublingual melatonin and initially I liked it. It helped me get to sleep and I would stay asleep (usually). However, I began to observe what I believed to be a correlation between increased depression and melatonin use. I think it was SLS that posted something similar a year or so ago.
As a bipolar, I consider mania (hypomania) and insomnia to be dancing partners and either one is capable of leading the dance. Therefore, it is beneficial for me to have an effective sleep aid handy just in case. Sonta works fairly well for me but it is two bucks a pill and supposedly has a relatively short shelf live (60 days, I think). If so, it goes bad sitting in my headboard.
However, my days of insomnia may be over because it has not been an issue since I began taking SAM-e four months ago. From what I've read, the methylating agent SAM-e is directly involved in the body's natural production of melatonin (as well as a plethora of other essential biochemical reactions such as the natural production of the neurotransmitters serotonin, dopamine, etc). John, I don't want to rant, but I'll tell ya, SAM-e gave me back my life!!
You help a lot of people at this site. Thank you for investing your time in the lives of other people!
-- Ron
PS Tell the Texaco attendant "thanks" from me.
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> This is it:
>
> http://www.discountblvd.com/156217.html
>
> I think its a little scary now that I see what
> these alkaloids are. It's enough to knock
> me out, which is my major problem. There's no
> hangover when I wake up like benadryl. I feel refreshed.
> It's not a good idea to take to much of this if you
> look closely at what's in it, especially the
> atropine (must be trace amounts). Prey for
> quality control.
>
> But hey, it was recommended by the clerk at
> the Texaco station, so it must be reliable.
>
> -John
>
> >
> > Hi Ron,
> >
> > I buy it at Randall's grocery store in Austin, Tx.
> > I've seen it on the net too.
> >
> > I recently investigated the ingredients to see
> > what I was putting in my body. This stuff was
> > powerful enough to knock me out while reducing
> > Klonopin dosage. Worked better for me than Remeron,
> > benadryl, booze, etc.
> >
> > it has 2 main ingredients:
> >
> > hyoscyamus niger: which has a little atropine,
> > scopolamine, and hyoscyomine (naturally occuring alkoloids)
> >
> > ignatia amara: folk remody for moodiness/grief.
> > not sure on mode of action.
> >
> > this stuff is strong. claims to be safe to take
> > with other meds, but I frankly would be leary.
> > My pdoc would have a heart attack if he new I
> > was taking it, but I was using every cheat I
> > could find to taper Klonopin (quit 5 mg in 6
> > weeks).
> >
> > Apparently tribal indians use some of this to
> > tranquilize themselves in the bushes to remain
> > still while hunting game or some crud like that.
> >
> > -John
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > John,
> > >
> > > Where do you buy the "Hyland's Homeopathic Insomnia, Natural Relief from Insomnia and Restlessness"?
> > >
> > > -- Ron
> > > ------------------
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > I have tried every supplement on the market.
> > > >
> > > > Cal Max may help (didn't help me), but a good
> > > > diet should cover that base.
> > > >
> > > > B-complex vitamins are good to take in general.
> > > >
> > > > 2 things have made a noticeable difference:
> > > >
> > > > - 2 Tablespoons/Day cold-pressed Flax-Seed Oil
> > > > very relaxing. Takes 2-3 weeks to notice full
> > > > effects. I buy the Spectrum brand.
> > > >
> > > > - This voodoo sleep aid called:
> > > > "Hyland's Homeopathic Insomnia,
> > > > Natural Relief from Insomnia and Restlessness".
> > > > Strong Stuff. Contains some strange herbs/flowers
> > > > with hypnotizing powers. Best sleep aid I ever took.
> > > > Throw out your valerian root, 5-htp, benadryl.
> > > > God knows what this stuff does to the brain and
> > > > liver.
> > > >
> > > > -John
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Has anyone had experience with either of these to treat stress, anxiety, and/or insomnia?
poster:Ron Hill
thread:95958
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