Posted by Jason911 on February 10, 2002, at 22:08:56
In reply to Re: Not scared or anything..., posted by kiddo on February 10, 2002, at 21:04:49
> 1.) Are you a physician?
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> 2.) How did you obtain this information?* Numerious observations and studies
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> 3.) How do you 'know' what lies down the road for me?* I don't. But tolerance is almost a certainty.
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> 4.) Why should I just take your word as if it were law?* You should never take anyone's word as if it were "law". You make decisions only. I try to stay as informed as possible about a specific issue and try to learn as much as I can. The internet contains a powerhouse of knowledge to be explored and forums, such as PB, provide knowledge to always keep in the back of your mind as it very well could help you. It's up to you to be informed of deadly combos or problematic advice that could be given to you. Take what you learn from here and expand on it and dig deeper to find more. The truth is out there, and what better method than to learn from the people who possess the knowledge of personal experience, but, therefore, up to YOU how to apply it. To find a solution is a dedicated effort that can only done by you or be left completely at the hands of another person. Lawsuits happen all the time against doctors for causing their patients more harm than good. Doctors know best? Not always. So many people don't realize the true extent of how unstructured and vulnerable this particular field of medicine is (there's a good post called: "Re: Psycho-Babble not helping anymore", OldSchool, 2/10/02" to keep in mind). Even psychiatrists are not always correct in diagnosing individuals or know what's best for them, even if it may seem that way. We must all look deeper to find a true answer. But at the same time, doctors are quite often successful at treating their patients without putting them through a vigorous and varied proccess of meds and combinations which produce side effects that can temporarily or permanently ruin their life but, certainly, don't always find the cure in one easy visit. For most of us, it takes time and can sometimes be a quite troublesome process of trial-and-error :) Psychiatry is really a pseudo-science. It really IS a trial-and-error system based on these doctors' observations to more easily narrow the options down for where his or her patient's "cure" might lie, based on other peoples' success (not always long term), and known reactions to various drug treatments in the past. You are fully entitled to believe or do what you or, otherwise, what someone else wants you to. This forum provides opinions to those who ask it, and it's up to you to decide fact from "fiction". -Jason911
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> I appreciate your 'recommendation', however, the problem I have with this is that I don't know who you are, and vice-versa. Even if you were a physician, I wouldn't take your recommendation at face value because you don't know me, my history or anything about my illness/disorder(s).
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> I very rarely visit PB for this reason. People seem too eager to accept another's word regarding medication, perhaps self-medicating, self-diagnosing, and/or altering their current medication without regard to THEIR situation, illness, and the possible repercussions of their actions.
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> I prefer to leave that up to my pdoc, his expertise, and the fact that he's known me for over 6 years, knows my illness, medical history, reactions/allergies, and has many years of experience and education to back his decisions.
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> People don't realize that (over) generalizations, posting incorrect/incomplete, and/or inappropriate information regarding to another person could cause not only needless panic, worry, but could cause someone to make a wrong decision that could be life-threatening or even fatal.
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> However, I do appreciate the thought-
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> > Well, in some people, it just takes longer (sometimes 2 or 3 years) before they realize a higher dosage is needed to get the same effect or that no matter what reasonable dosage is used, they get no effect anymore and experience withdrawl symptoms. Things have gone great so far, but you should know what lies down the road (could be a long road, but) every human brain (unless taking another medication to help this and even those are questionable) will produce tolerance. It's our brains way of responding to the constant onslaught of amphetamines. To put it more simply, amphetamines (especially dexedrine or adderall) trick the brain into doing a certain thing and eventually the brain figures this out and tries to counter-act this. Damage to dopamine cells are not uncommon after continued amphetamine use (5 or 10 years down the road) and especially not wise if you're over 40 as this occurs naturally in people with age and could potentiate this. Adderall WILL catch up with you. It could take 4 or more years but will still occur. I would recommend low-dose (5mg) selegiline (Eldepryl) to protect your dopamine cells from neurotoxicity and it could possibly prolong it's effects (as well as your life) over a longer period of time. God bless, -Jason911
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> > > I said I HAD been off it for months at a time. I take 20mg daily and have for over a year. When I met my pdoc I had enough meds to start my own pharmacy. However, with the help of my husband and pdoc, that isn't the case anymore and hasn't been for the past 6 years.
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> > > Yes, taking Adderall (or any other med) recreationally would seem pointless but is done every day....
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> > > Again, I take Adderall everyday, however there have been times when I've ran out and couldn't afford to pick up the scrip, and went without it; at times a few days, a week, or even a month....and do tolerate it without withdrawal.
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