Posted by Randy Thomas on January 1, 2002, at 0:08:51
In reply to Re: venlafaxine PLEASE READ Sid,old school,jimmy gold, posted by OldSchool on December 30, 2001, at 17:18:14
> > I have suffered with depression for 10 years.I am 32 now and still suffering.Surely there has to be an answer.I have had so many different anti-depressents over the years, none of which have ever worked.I am convinced that the doctor really doesn't know what is the matter with me.It isnt any better under the rule of US HMO's no matter what others here seem to believe, IMO.
Its too bad that so many Americans cant seem to see that our healthcare system is on the rocks, and its not going to get better on its own.
> The doctors do not know what is going on in your head, ahem, your brain I mean. Depression is a brain based illness, yet the diagnostic approach is usually that of its a "psychological" or even worse, just an "emotional" problem. When you are really dealing with a type of neurological illness when you are talking severe depression, manic depression, schizophrenia, etc.
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> > Doctors here in England are reluctant to spend money on scans etc.So I think when I mention this to him he will have a heart attack and try his hardest to slide away from it.Just like in the USA where doctors will write a script for a med before any expensive test that will cuase the HMO to lose more money.
Hmmmmm ???
> Yes, Ive heard the socialized medicine program in the UK is not the best. Medical care is "rationed" out in the UK. I truly hope socialized medicine does not ever come to the USA.
I pray that it DOES come to the USA in the form that Canada and Oz have it.
If you lose your job or get laid off you dont have to worry how you are going to pay COBRA that 400 dollar a month payment so that if your kid needs an operation, you dont have to sruggle through all the red-tape to get help or go broke trying.
>I fear hard to treat patients would be most affected by a socialized medical system, where care is "rationed" out. Scary to an American who is used to getting things we want.I have a clue for you Old Timer. Under HMO rule, heatlth care is rationed out, just like it is under Medicare. There is no reason not to go with a national healthcare plan, one that would leave people able to pay privately if they want to go that route.
> Somehow, I dont think socialized medicine will ever go down here...I dont think it would jibe with the average American after they learned of the realities of socialized medical care.Yes, the realities that your employer will have to pay you a decent wage, instead of cheap HMO insurance plans, while your tax dollers go to pay for your healthcare and those of your fellow Americans.
> My attitude about healthcare here, is we dont need socialized medical care. What we need is health insurance reform.
I disagree. We need a rational national heathcare plan that keeps people on thier feet.
> > When you are suffering with mental illness in England,and are mentally weak it is all to easy for the doctor to ease you out of the treatment room with a prescription for some more pills to pop.I always get the impression that they don't really care.Sounds like the care you get under HMO care in the USA to me. Perhaps a look at healthceare in Aus. or Canada where operations and medications are much cheaper and the health insurance companies do not rule the roost, like in the US.
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