Posted by Lorraine on September 3, 2001, at 20:48:59
In reply to Re: Parnate stuff » Lorraine, posted by Elizabeth on August 31, 2001, at 9:16:05
I was gone for the long weekend up near the Russion River in Northern California and so my delay in responding.
> > > > It's been about a month, although I increase my dosage about 2 weeks ago to 15 mg.
> Okay...I wouldn't base your conclusions as to how well it will work on how well it's working at 15 mg. (The minimum effective dose is usually 30, although I think that some effects become noticeable at 20.)
I won't make it to 20, I don't think. When I went to 15, I started becoming irritable and cranky. I had hoped this would abate with time, but it didn't, so I stepped back down to 12.5, which left me with insufficient mood support and irritable to boot. So, I think, I'm off the Parnate and on to Nardil after a 5 day washout period on amphetamines and neurontin.
[re Ambien] Is this a strange medication or what????!! I'm not sure I get it yet. I take the pill 10 mg and take 800 neurontin (actually chewing them slightly so that the caps will process quicker), then wait 30 minutes, then lay down and feel like there is no way I can sleep. Maybe 30 minutes pass, then I start counting my breaths (which is what I do to still my mind) and tell myself I only have to count 20 breaths (breath in 1, 2; breath out 1,2,3,4). By breath 10 or so I'm asleep, but I don't know what to attribute it to. I never feel like I am coming on to the Ambien. Does this sound right?
> I don't know about Neurontin; I never had that problem with Ambien.
I'm glad to hear that the Ambien is neither addictive nor habituating. I went out and bought ear plugs to help with the sleeping also.
So you are going to try augmenting your Desipramine with stimulants, I read. Adderal worked well with me. I read in the archives of Psychobabble that Desipramine and Nardil are a good combination--that the Desipramine avoided the weight gain issues with Nardil.
How are your driving lessons going? I tried to buy the book you recommended, but it's out of print so I've requested notification from Amazon of used copy sales (here's your chance!< g >)