Posted by Elizabeth on July 19, 2001, at 22:57:43
In reply to Re: hand holding » Elizabeth, posted by Lorraine on July 19, 2001, at 20:20:06
> [re mechanism of action Stabilium]
> > > > Of course I'd ask it! Seriously, I'm planning on looking it up myself at some point (it's right at the bottom of my things-to-do list < g >).
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> Well, unless you are a skin picker, you must have lots of extra time on your hands.Sort of. I'm also a compulsive procrastinator.
> When I was in school--they kept us too busy to think.< vbg >
I went to a school that's considered very tough academically, but I found time to party too.
> > > > Isn't temperature intolerance tied to thyroid function?
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> Did you do the armpit test? (No, it's not a sniff test!)Uhh...what is it, then?
> I think the bad news was that the drugs that treat anxiety aren't energizing and the drugs that are energizing are terrible for anxiety.
Ahh, ok. That's where antidepressants come in; they can be simultaneously activating and anxiolytic. (Nardil is probably the most extreme example of this.)
> [re inderal and depression]
> > > > That's interesting. What I've read has suggested that the "beta blockers cause depression" thing has been greatly exaggerated (because people with cardiac disease are at increased risk of depression to start with).
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> Who knows? My mood really spiraled down and I have to blame it on something--although it could just be cyclical. I am now charting my moods.That might not be a bad idea; see if there're any patterns (seasonal, circadian, etc.).
> My pdoc decided that trying another beta-blocker didn't make sense given my reaction to Inderal (although cause and effect are never clear).
I think that the cardioselective beta blockers would be fine if your reaction was strictly an "above the neck" one.
> He put me on Valium 1 mg a day staying the course with my regular meds (Selegiline, Nardill and Adderal), but dropping the Inderal. We'll see, it's just day 2.
1 mg??? That's a *really* small amount (it's half of the smallest strength pill). Valium is much less potent than Klonopin and Xanax are.
I take Klonopin sometimes to counteract the jitters from buprenorphine. It really helps. Inderal helps too but isn't as thorough.
> > > Well, that's funny because I think I thought I'd jump out of my skin on them.
> >
> > On opioids? Why?
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> I don't know, they just make me aggitated, shakey, edgy, weepy and so forth.Oh, I see. Which one(s) have you taken that caused this reaction? It's true that some people (perhaps up to a third of the population) feel dysphoric on opioids.
> > Leaden paralysis is specifically supposed to mean a feeling of heaviness in the arms and legs.
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> That's too bad, about the definition. It really sounded like my mental state.Feeling so lethargic that you can't move is how some people describe it.
> > > > > > Huh. In what sense is it a Pandora's box?
> > >
> > > You can't close it.
> >
> > Wait -- what was "it" again? < g >
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> I did laugh when I read this.Good, it's nice to know I can still be entertaining. :-)
> But in case this was one of those senior moments, the it was anxiety.
"senior moments?"
> It sounds like once you have the motor running, it becomes a perpetual machine that can be controlled with meds but never really turned off.
Huh. I don't get the analogy -- in what sense is your anxiety like the contents of a box that you opened?
-elizabeth
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